190 Grain 357 for a brush gun

[ElCheapo]

Shot a bunch of deer with mine. 180 grain LBT WFN's out of my Marlin 1894 carbine killed every bit as well as 30 30, 308 or 30-06 at woods ranges. I hunted public land where if a deer runs more than 50 yards or so, someone else is going to shoot it and claim it. Shoulder shots break them down, drop them quickly and ruin heart and lungs. Deer is done, you get complete passthroughs and can eat right up to the bullet hole. No wasted meat. Worked for me.

[St. Hogustine]

Shot a bunch of deer with mine. 180 grain LBT WFN's out of my Marlin 1894 carbine killed every bit as well as 30 30, 308 or 30-06 at woods ranges. I hunted public land where if a deer runs more than 50 yards or so, someone else is going to shoot it and claim it. Shoulder shots break them down, drop them quickly and ruin heart and lungs. Deer is done, you get complete passthroughs and can eat right up to the bullet hole. No wasted meat. Worked for me.

I'm with El Cheapo. In my experience, .357 and .44 rounds tend to kill as quickly as most common high-velocity deer cartridges, and without the wasted meat or bloody jello. Most properly hit whitetail are DRT. Out of necessity, I have killed deer with the typical 158gr. 38 Special LRN (from a rifle), and those tend to run 50-100yds.