Shot a bunch of deer with mine. 180 grain LBT WFN's out of my Marlin 1894 carbine killed every bit as well as 30 30, 308 or 30-06 at woods ranges. I hunted public land where if a deer runs more than 50 yards or so, someone else is going to shoot it and claim it. Shoulder shots break them down, drop them quickly and ruin heart and lungs. Deer is done, you get complete passthroughs and can eat right up to the bullet hole. No wasted meat. Worked for me.