These are some Cheddite Kraft paper pre-primed hulls I just got in from BPI last month. They loaded up very, very nice. Only got 200 of them, will have to wait for more most likely, I waited 7 months for these on back order, but they loaded up sweet. I had 16's on order with these but they called and told me that they were not going to be available, so the hunt goes on for more 16 ga paper.