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    Best weight bullet for 300 Black Out Deer LOAD

    What would be a good weight cast bullet to use for Small Whitetail in the 300 Black Out, well really in a 30-223.
    Shots 150 yards are less

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    Needs to be supersonic. One of the lighter weights for sure. 110-125?


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    A 150 gr flat nose at 1800 fps should work fine. It did in a 30-30 at that speed.
    Good hunting.

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    I have a 120gr and a 150 gr. RN mould as well as the Lee 230. I was leaning to the 150 gr.
    Any load information?
    By the way, nice looking rifle, Was it hard to get it to feed the 30-30 ?

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    If you've got Reloder 7, start at 15.0gr. and somewhere around 15.6-15.8 should be what you're looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish View Post
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    If you've got Reloder 7, start at 15.0gr. and somewhere around 15.6-15.8 should be what you're looking for.
    I do have a little reloader 7. Do you have any idea as to what FPS would be?

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    The boolit with the biggest meplat would be my choice. Is your 30-223 a fast twist? You may need a hard alloy if so.
    My 1916 Spanish Mauser was very easy to make work with 30-30Win.
    Tell us about your rifle, please.

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    In cast a 180grGC works great, 208 j word works well subsonic in my TC 300 whisper. Just don't over push it.
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    With each of my firearms, I generally try to hold to a minimum of 500 foot pounds at the distance of impact. This was the older Georgia State handgun regulations requirements, it works well for the deer in southeast GA.
    I’m still playing with the cast in the 300aac.
    18.0gr of 2230 is producing just under 1500fps in a 16” barrel with powder coated Lee C309-160-R. Actual weight is 166gr. OAL 1.940” is in the upper lube groove. These were recovered from a dirt pile at a 100 yards
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsubaki View Post
    With each of my firearms, I generally try to hold to a minimum of 500 foot pounds at the distance of impact. This was the older Georgia State handgun regulations requirements, it works well for the deer in southeast GA.
    I’m still playing with the cast in the 300aac.
    18.0gr of 2230 is producing just under 1500fps in a 16” barrel with powder coated Lee C309-160-R. Actual weight is 166gr. OAL 1.940” is in the upper lube groove. These were recovered from a dirt pile at a 100 yards
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    I’ve already arrived that Sierra’s 135gr #2124 does fine in the 3 different 300aac firearms I have but it still sticks in my mind something in a 150gr would do a little better. Once I get through playing with some jacketed 150 RN stuff, I may get Lee’s C309-150-F to see how it acts.
    I’m trying to keep up to velocities that will expand well enough depending on the bullet used.
    A cast one might do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejay75 View Post
    What’s your alloy?
    It is an unknown alloy, X-ray room lead, wheel weights, etc.
    Best I remember it is about a BHN11 hardness.
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    I like the heavier slugs. 170-180 But the 150 RN I have is also a favorite in my 32-20 so should be great in the 30-30 too.

    I agree taylor the mix and watch the velocity/pressures.

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    For hogs I use a 145gr PB (31-142C) @ ~ 2k fps. MOA @ 100 & 1k #-'. Working with a 170 PB & 185GC (31-184C) I did for 30/30 but works good in BO. Actually shot the 10" 1:8 pistol today @25, even the soft alloy did pretty good, Just a sightmark holo .You got more case in apache so 335 might work.
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    I have found the Speer 130g HP to preform well out of 30/30 & 300 Savage. I found this bullet by
    accident when a buddy bought a M1a. The booklet that came with it suggested it as accuracy load.
    I shot them out of a Marlin Marauder 16" barrel and shot some 1" groups at 60yds. It's pointed
    bullet so I put one in chamber & one in tube. I have shot a couple deer with this bullet and it
    expanded nicely. My longest deer kill with a 30/30 was made with this bullet, 150yds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsubaki View Post
    It is an unknown alloy, X-ray room lead, wheel weights, etc.
    Best I remember it is about a BHN11 hardness.

    X Ray lead is close to pure if I remember which explains the awesome looking mushrooms.

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    I have a 7mm TCU carbine (basically a 7mm/223) that has done the job on our local deer with 140 gr. boolits at an MV of about 1700 fps including a couple over 200# on the hoof. Ranges have been 100 yards or less. All have been pass throughs with a large exit wound. My alloy is 2/3 pure, 1/3 hard birdshot with some extra tin added.
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    in the 300 Black Out, well really in a 30-223.
    There's a lot of difference in a 300BO and a 30-223. Which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsubaki View Post
    I’ve already arrived that Sierra’s 135gr #2124 does fine in the 3 different 300aac firearms I have but it still sticks in my mind something in a 150gr would do a little better. Once I get through playing with some jacketed 150 RN stuff, I may get Lee’s C309-150-F to see how it acts.
    I’m trying to keep up to velocities that will expand well enough depending on the bullet used.
    A cast one might do it.
    I like this bullet too.

    It works very good at the vel range of the lil Blackout!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenH View Post
    There's a lot of difference in a 300BO and a 30-223. Which is it?
    It is the 30-223, just hard to find loading data.
    Thinking about using 7 tcu data.
    Have a Savage Axis that has been rebarreled to it. Barrel is 17 1/2 inches with a 1-10 1/2 twist.
    Rest in a Boyds stock.
    Nice little bush rifle.
    Last edited by brstevns; 08-24-2018 at 12:37 PM.

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