WARNING RANT FOLLOWS. Sometimes I Really, Really Hate People

[DCP]

"these same people have human babies in a store restroom and then throw it in the trash and leave."

When you quote someone you use quotes. I know you can use the shift key. LOL

[Thundarstick]

"these same people have human babies in a store restroom and then throw it in the trash and leave."

When you quote someone you use quotes. I know you can use the shift key. LOL

I'll try to avoid confusing you so in the future.

[am44mag]

If someone is cruel enough to kill an animal in a very inhumane way such as letting it die of thirst, that tells me they see no value in life. Someone like that doesn't have a lot of value in my eyes. These ARE the types of people who would kill a baby or become a serial killer.

Would I personally ever kill them over killing an animal? No, but then again I'd happily piss on their grave when they finally went to hell.

[Mr_Sheesh]

Rightly so, glockfan!

In Korea in about 900AD IIRC one prince (who apparently had serious mental issues) was ordered confined by the king in a rice box (one "didn't" kill royalty, and at the time if they had been accused of treason IIRC their entire family would have had to be killed as well, according to law and tradition there) - He was confined till death. That has to be a bad way to go; It'd do for one chaining that dog like that. Used to live in an area where "people" would drop off unwanted pets, the coyotes hunted them daily. TICKS me off! Another option is the saying "Get a rope." (At least to scare the heck out of the jerk...)

[shooter93]

I misunderstood the first part of the post, I thought when he said a skeleton of a dog and a bowl for water that the dog was still alive but looked like a skeleton....my mistake. Would I shoot someone who I caught at these kinds of things......you bet. There is a vast difference to doing this to a pet or domestic animal and hunting animals.......a vast difference. It is a HUGE cruelty. The owners could have tried to find it a home, taken it to a shelter or even having the dog put down humanely if absoultely necessary. The way this was done is to me simply unforgivable and I hope they find that place kept for them when they pass.

[jonp]

I misunderstood the first part of the post, I thought when he said a skeleton of a dog and a bowl for water that the dog was still alive but looked like a skeleton....my mistake. Would I shoot someone who I caught at these kinds of things......you bet. There is a vast difference to doing this to a pet or domestic animal and hunting animals.......a vast difference. It is a HUGE cruelty. The owners could have tried to find it a home, taken it to a shelter or even having the dog put down humanely if absoultely necessary. The way this was done is to me simply unforgivable and I hope they find that place kept for them when they pass.

Now your post makes sense. When I first read it I scratched my head over it

[jonp]

I'll try to avoid confusing you so in the future.

After your inane post's, side tracks and thread highjacking I will be sure to avoid anything you post in the future. Blocked

[fatelk]

I love dogs too, and it's heartbreaking to see one abused, but I sincerely hope nobody here ever ends up standing before a jury trying to explain why they murdered someone who was abusing a a dog, because I think we all know it wouldn't end well.

I realize that most of the "I'd shoot them" here is just talk, but you never know.

[Thundarstick]

Call it hijacking of you will, but anyone who would kill, or maim a man, "human" over an animal of any kind deserve pity for their eternal condemnation. The number of folks who state that death is the proper remedy for what was done to this dog both sadden and anger me at the same time.

Sorry if I stepped on a toes, but I have strong feelings about death threats over dogs, or any other animal for that matter. Hell, we don't even put child murders to death in this country until we've spent 30 million dollars on them, why would you advocate death for an animal abuser/ killer?

[rancher1913]

see the disclaimer in the op's title, its a rant, it lets you get it off your chest, it does not mean you are really going to murder somebody over animal abuse.

[tinsnips]

I have a bone headed neighbor that cannot figure out how to take care of a dog, so for at least 5 years the boys an I have been feeding him making sure he has water,a dog house etc. He lives outside in 100 degree temp in the summer to way below zero in the winter. I wish I could do the same to him. Some people should not have pets or kids!

[JBinMN]

Sometimes... When I read of such things like the OP, I consider that "tar & feathering", or "whipping" with a whip, as was sometimes done in the past is a gentle punishment for the one who deserves so much more...

[abunaitoo]

That is intentional animal cruelty.
The cops should treat it as a murder.
They should investigate it as if it were a person.
Laws need to be changed.
If you catch the guy,I'll buy the hammer.
And the rope.

[KCSO]

Are you sure you were not pranked. If a dog was chained to a tree and left the ground around should have been tore to pieces. The chain wrapped around the tree and such. No dog unless it was already dead would just lay there and die. In fact most larger dogs unless it was a real stout chain might have broke free.

The other option is not cruelty but ignorance. I have seen more than one case of an owner putting a dog out on a hot day and finding it dead of heat stroke when they came home. Same a poor dog or even a kid left in the car. Most of them cry like babies that poor muffy is gone and never think for a moment that THEY killed muffy.

[jsizemore]

I've had the fortune to see a good portion of the world. Sometimes it ain't pretty in places. I pulled down a dead end road on a cliff overlooking the ocean on Guam. I didn't even have a chance to exit the vehicle and admire the view when a truckload of Samoan's pulled up and wanted to know what I was doing down there. Said I was lost and looking for the Naval Station. They gave me detailed directions on how to get there and escorted me to the highway. A truckload of Samoan's is only 6 because they tend to be large.

I grew up in an area of north Florida that was famous for it's homegrown pot. Folks went into production in remote areas and would visit the farm sporadically since they didn't want to be patterned. Other folks took to using dogs to track the growers and raid their fields. In response some growers chained out large dogs along the path to discourage the raiders. Things escalated to land mines and automatic weapons. A raid by authorities would cause a cessation of activity by growers and raiders. Sometimes the critters got left behind.

It wouldn't surprise me that you went down a dead end road that at one time had pot fields or a liquor still and the dog was the alarm.

There are places in the world you aren't meant to go. I'm glad you and the wife and dog made it home.

[Crash_Corrigan]

I rest easy knowing full well that the person responsible for this horror show will have to answer to a higher power upon his/her demise and the penalty exacted will certainly exceed the fate of the poor dog. There is pure evil in this world and for the Stalin & Hitler types there is the continual fires of h e double hockey sticks. We cannot fathom eternity as humans but just imagine the eternal fires down there and the miserable folks condemned to suffer there for eternity. At 76 I await my expiration date with joy knowing full well what my fate will be in the hereafter. My only concerns are over my wife and my beloved pets which I will leave behind to fend for themselves.

[Elkins45]

I found a ground stake and a steel cable with a collar attached wrapped around a cedar tree on our farm. It had obviously been there for several years before we bought the place because there were no remains of the dog to be found. It still makes me sad every time I think about it, and that was obviously not intentional. Someone doing that on purpose just fills me with rage. What is wrong with people?

[Walks]

My DAD, was raised on a Ranch in the 1920-30's. By the time I came along my family lived in the Greater Los Angeles area. We kept two Hunting dogs in their own runs in our back yard. We also had a pair of Dachshunds as pets for us little kids. Every day after school my little brother & I would exercise the Hunting dogs by throwing a red & blue balls across our HUGE backyard. 30minutes every day. One of us would throw the balls, and the other would clean out the 2 30ft dog runs. The Dachshunds would run back and forth with thr big dogs chasing the balls, they never had a chance. But they all had fun.

Even though he was raised on a Ranch and spent his life Hunting & Riding horses, he was adamantly opposed to mistreatment of animals. He taught me the HUNTER'S PRAYER "LORD grant me a clean kill or a clean miss."
All our animals were well treated. Punishment had to be immediate (a pop on the butt with an open hand) or not at all. He said if you punish an animal 2-3+ hours after they poop on the rug, they won't understand why and will only be confused.

We owned horses & boarded them in GRIFFITH Park. Riding on the weekends with DAD, or by ourselves during the week. He had a great love for horses.

Once as we prepared for a ride there was a commotion out behind the stable. When we led our horses outside to mount, there was an English Rider beating his horse in the face with his crop.
It was the only time in my life I ever saw my FATHER become enraged. He threw his horses reins to my Brother and stepped forward and grabbed the man by his shirt collar. He hauled him back and took the crop away from him. He threw it down and spun the man around, then slapped him hard twice. When he let go of the abuser the man feel down.
He sat there stunned for a few moments then got up screaming bloody murder.

Stable staff and other riders came running out. The "man" started screaming that he had been attacked and beaten by my FATHER for no reason.
The Stable MGR asked my FATHER what had happened.

DAD said the "mans" horse had shied as he rode through the stable door. The "man" had fallen of his horse striking his face into the stable door as he fell off.
It was actually against Stable Rules to be mounted inside the stable.
By this time there were about a dozen or so people crowding around.

The "man" started screaming to call the Police.
Burbank PD showed up. The "man" told the Officer that my FATHER had punched him for no reason. The Officer asked my FATHER what had happened. My Dad repeated the same story, my Older Brother backed him up. He then looked at me, I was still holding the "mans" trembling horse, stroking his neck, trying to calm him down. He was a fine big Bay gelding with a BEAUTIFULLY Made English Saddle. He had 4 or 5 welts on his face, one of his eyes was half swollen shut.
I said I was behind my FATHER & Brothers horses and by the time I got outside, the only thing I saw the man sitting on the ground in a pile of horse****. That got a laugh all around. The Officer checked my FATHER'S hands, no marks.

Well make a long story short, the Officer said it was the "mans" word against my FATHER & Brother's.
The "man" stormed off, leaving me holding his horse. The Stable MGR came over and took the gelding from me, saying he would call the Vet.

DAD said mount up, and rode off. We followed the regular fenced trail for a couple of miles. Then we went off marked trail to a small clearing we often lunched at. DAD swung down and sat on a old stump.
We dismounted too.

HE started to talk, " boy's I know you are trying to figure out what just happened. I appreciate your backing me up. I am not a liar, but sometimes?..??... it has to serve a purpose.
You know how I feel about beating an animal, I just lost my temper for a moment. I'd like to tell you how sorry I am that you had to see any of that. I think you can realize that brutality is never pretty and you should avoid those situations whenever you can. But sometimes things just rise up and smack you in the face, and you just react. I should have not lost my temper as I did. Remember this & learn to control your reactions in bad situations.
We will never speak of this again, TO ANYONE.

We rode for a couple of more hours and then back to the stable. As we were rubbing down our horses, the Stable Mgr came to talk to my DAD. He said the VET had told him that he thought the gelding's eye would likely heal without much loss of sight. But the welts might very well leave scars.

The next visit to the Stable we learned the "man" had sent a Horse transport Co. to collect the gelding.

Nobody ever heard another word about that poor animal.

This is the first time I have spoken of it since that day over 50yrs ago.
But DAD and ALAN are both gone now.

Boy Howdy, did I get long winded on this one. Sorry guys

[Mr_Sheesh]

Viciousness or Stupidity should HURT, your dad made sure it DID, that day. I feel sorry for the horse, I have seen cases where someone took someone else's dog when the dog was being abused. I took one kitten at age 7 weeks from a family where they almost killed her and did kill a sibling of hers; I came in and heard a kitten screaming for help, the energy was WEIRD but somehow no one was looking to see why the kitten was in distress. Felt WRONG. I tracked the kitten down and she was in the washing machine, she'd been washed and the machine stopped, when it went out of balance. I took her out and took her to my place, after she fed on her mother, cleaning her up and holding her that night. No way was I NOT going to take her out of there, I couldn't prove that they did that intentionally but I made sure she was safe after that.

[fatelk]

Boy Howdy, did I get long winded on this one. Sorry guys

Don’t be sorry at all; that was a great story and a good read. Thank you for sharing that.