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Thread: Anyone cast for the Winchester 25-20?

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    Anyone cast for the Winchester 25-20?

    What mould?
    What load?
    Just fell into a Savage Sporter in 25-20. Very nice simple rifle.
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    There should be several threads around here, and a huge thread over on the Marlin Owners board, reloading section.
    I load for a Marlin '94 25-20. Over the years i've used the Lyman 257420gc, a custom group mold from Lee that throws an 80 gr gc boolet that was designed for the Marlin, and lately the NOE 260283 mold that I ordered as a plain base. The first two I ran fast, but I've pretty much settled on the 260283 powder coated at just under 1300 fps with 9.2 gr 4198. The rifle is 110+ years old so why push it. Very accurate and does a number on small game.

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    Do a search. I got a few pieces of brass, 25-20 and 32-20 brass from someone here at castboolits 7 or so years ago.
    He cast and loaded for both. I delete messages after a while so it is gone.

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    Go to marlinowners.com , then go to the Forum, Reloading section. great 25-20 info.

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    I also have a Savage M23 Sorter in 25-20. Mine has had the barrel shortened. I have a Lee Loader, Lyman 310 dies and Pacific standard dies. I cast 2 different bullets for it; a 257283HP which I cast very soft (usually 30-1 alloy), leave as cast, TL in LLA and load over 2.5 gr Bullseye for a subsonic vermin load. The other is the Lyman 257420 GC cast of COWWs + 2% tin and loaded over 10 gr H4227 for 1850 fps or 4.5 gr Unique for 1550 fps.

    I also picked up an original Ideal tong tool with a mould attached. Haven't cast any with that yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    I also have a Savage M23 Sorter in 25-20. Mine has had the barrel shortened. I have a Lee Loader, Lyman 310 dies and Pacific standard dies. I cast 2 different bullets for it; a 257283HP which I cast very soft (usually 30-1 alloy), leave as cast, TL in LLA and load over 2.5 gr Bullseye for a subsonic vermin load. The other is the Lyman 257420 GC cast of COWWs + 2% tin and loaded over 10 gr H4227 for 1850 fps or 4.5 gr Unique for 1550 fps.
    I also picked up an original Ideal tong tool with a mould attached. Haven't cast any with that yet.
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    How did you mount the scope? I have two holes drilled and tapped (factory) in the receiver at about above the bolt handle but nothing for the other mount.
    I am curious.
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    I use a double cavity Lyman, 257420. I shoot it in my Jeffery Rook rifle that's been re-lined to 25-20 WCF but I load it to the original 255 Jeffery ballistics. It's been a really good bullet for me in that application.
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    I have a Winchester 92 and a Remington 25 in 25-20. I have only used one load in this caliber since the 1960s. The load came from John Wooters and is Lyman 257312 (90 grain GC) over 9 grains of 4227. Excellent load and quite a number of critters have bit the dust because of it.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    I recently bought 2 molds for my M92 25-20.
    257420 and 257312. I haven`t cast with either yet due to the hot weather.
    I have been loading 6.5 gr. 2400 with an 86 gr GC boolit I bought from a vendor here.
    It chronographs at a little over 1400fps...dale

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISH4BUGS View Post
    How did you mount the scope? I have two holes drilled and tapped (factory) in the receiver at about above the bolt handle but nothing for the other mount.
    I am curious.
    Thanks,
    Donald
    I D&T'd the front 2 holes as I have a Forster jig. Shouldn't cost too much for a gunsmith to D&T the 2 holes. A jig is really need as the "receiver" is actually part of the barrel so lining up the 2 new holes vertically with the 2 rear holes is critical.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check