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Thread: Lee 356-120 TC for hunting?

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    Lee 356-120 TC for hunting?

    I am one of the lucky few that my mold drops .358 what do you think about using this bullet to hunt deer at 50 yards or so out of a 357 magnum going about 1500 ft./s do you think the nose is flat enough to do enough damage or do you think I should try to HP it? I know deer donít have armor plating and a well aimed shot will do the job but any experience here?

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    Like you said, shot placement is the most important thing. If it were me, I would be looking for a heavier bullet.

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    I would but this boolit cuts a ragged hole at 50 yards... so I’m confident about the placement just not how it would preform. In Ky we don’t have 250 lb monster deer we have 130-150 lb.. I figure it shouldn’t have a problem killing one

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    I guess you could always do a pork shoulder test, or something similar.

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    https://leeprecision.com/mold-dc-358-158-rf.html

    Yes, they're not bulletproof, but that's pretty marginal for sheer mass IMO when you're trying to kill an animal at distance. I like more meplat than that TC too. The linked 160 grainer is about as light as I would even think about, stuff goes wrong when you hunt,,,,,,,.

    Personally, I hunt with a 230gr with a huge meplat at 1450 fps in the .357. Worrying about marginal mass/velocity is eliminated.

    I have no doubt with a good broadside shot under 40 yards your percentages are good, but push it to 60 yards and add in any possibility of screwing up the shot and I think you've got problems.

    Using 180-200 grain FP has been a proven combination for many decades.
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    They put a jackrabbit down easily but don't seem to tear one up. I go heavier for deer.
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    230 grains in the .357? That is one huge boolit, Hamish.
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    For deer I'd opt for a better bullet, especially a GC'd one, for use out of a .357. If not, then something similar to the 358156.
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    One of the things I like to do is test boolits at 40 yards into soaked phone books that are tied together then soaked compressing them slightly. See what the boolit does with your hunting load. If you get good penetration (over 8" in my opinion), good expansion, and a good "wound channel", you will get good performance on deer size game (not bear, of course, which require a much heavier boolit). I do most of my deer hunting with a 45 cal muzzleloader and a 130 gr PRB which always has had impressive results on deer in spite of conventional wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy_Dan View Post
    230 grains in the .357? That is one huge boolit, Hamish.

    And a dandy it is,,,,,

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    A close range shot in the neck should work just fine. Under 50 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish View Post
    And a dandy it is,,,,,

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    Shoot that in a Contender or something similar?
    ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MT Gianni View Post
    They put a jackrabbit down easily but don't seem to tear one up. I go heavier for deer.
    Ditto. 180 grain FNGC at 1400 FPS (Ruger Bishawk x 7.5") or 1800 FPS (Henry Big Boy). Hunting deer is NOT like using light tackle to play fish. A lot of hunters seem to miss that point.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    More meplat is better.
    More weight is better.
    NOE bullet molds has what you want. Great quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerd View Post
    Shoot that in a Contender or something similar?
    ..
    Yes sir, 12" Contender.
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