Originally Posted by sixgunner452
Yes.
Filing that inside lug will allow the extractor body to lie closer to the bolt body, and thus not bind against the inside of the action - IF it's the proper extractor.
BTW, all Mauser extractors are factory designed to allow the cartridge case rim to rise upward as the cartridge is fed from the magazine (why they are referred to as CRF - controlled round feed), and should need no extra work.
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Look directly at the face of the extractor, head on if you will, you will see the bevel on the edge of the extractor. That bevel is what slips into the extractor groove on the cartridge. After you get the extractor to fit down in to the groove in the bolt, that bevel will need opened just enough to let a cartridge slip under it. With a new manufactured collar that has to be split, a new blank extractor it takes me maybe a half hour to fit it EXACTLY right. I'll see if I can get another picture of the bevel, but it is the only ground bevel on the extractor right on the edge of the claw.
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I've done a couple from BLANKS and they needed extra work to be 100% To tight or not enough rounded off on lower corner, feeding issue, too loose and you are screwed, it can jump the extractor over the rim and you can run it like a push feed, not correct for CRF. One too loose may feed and extract perfectly in the standard firing position, but may not layed to right or left and almost never upside down over your head like one set up correctly.
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The part of the extractor that folds down over the face of the bolt is the CLAW on a claw extractor, the bevel is the bottom edge of that claw that slips into the extractor groove of the cartridge, notice the shape, very very little at a time.
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Gentlemen, here is a better pic I hope. Randy.
Liberty Tree collectors has original Spanish 1916 extractors for $22 a piece.
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Texas by God, may have to order another. I believe I ordered from Numerich. It stated the extractor had been inspected, and was serviceable for a 1916 Mauser. Just to make sure I understand, remove material from the entire extractor on the underside. Then fit the claw?
The newest picture shows how far out the extractor sits with a cartridge, It does not without a cartridge inserted. It looks like the picture swheeler provided. Randy.
Gentlemen, here is another pic. Randy. Please be explicit about where to remove material. Randy
If the Bolt and extractor assembled fit into the receiver , Without a cartridge in the bolt head, and they slide in fine with No Binding.
But then Bind once you put the case in the bolt head, then the part that is Too Long , Is the part that goes up against the case in the extractor Groove on the Cartridge.
The cartridge in the bolt under the extractor is pushing the , End of the extractor out, and it looks like in your pictures the extractor is then no longer square to the end of the bolt ,and maling the Extractor Bind because it is too wide.
Do Not try to Thin the Extractor to solve your problem.
Fit the Claw to the case Head.
And that should be done By Hand with a Round Hand Stone, Not a Dremmel tool.
You can also use a M1903 extractor if you have problems finding a Small Ring extractor
Gentlemen, as usual Larry knew exactly what the problem was. Took about 15 minutes with a slip stone, and a fine file to correct. I removed (cautiously) a little material from the inside of the hook/bevel. Thanks to all, and especially Larry. Randy.
phoooeee! I was getting exhausted and losing sleep over this one. Glad its good to go!
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Thank you Randy for the kind words.
But the same issue was brought up by several of the other members if you go back and read the posts.
The only thing I can take credit for is, I pointed out a simple way to check and identify , or Isolate the problem.
The other members also do not know that I had Emailed you pictures of how to check and verify if this was truly the problem.
I wish I could have posted those pictures on the forum for all to see.
But the forum wont let me download and post more pictures to the threads, except the ones that are already downloaded.
And now you have a custom fitted extractor. Pay yourself well, my friend.
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Texas by God, I sure do have a custom fitted extractor. Thanks to all who have helped. Larry did indeed email me pics. Here they are. Along with a quote from him.
"Here is how you check to see if the case is pushing the extractor out too fat and how much.
The case should do in snug , but not push the extractor out.
You are taking about .001 to .005 expansion with the case in the bolt face."
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Thanks Randy.
But I need to start using Spell Check when I am Emailing after an all night concrete pour.
But you guys get the point.
I hope this helps others also
Randy sorry about that thought you had one these, a blank extractor for mauser from Brownells or Midway.
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swheeler, no problem at all. I'll take any help I can get. Randy.
Lags- are there any modifications needed to use a 1903 Springfield extractor on the 1893/1916 Mauser bolt? Thanks.
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It has been so many years ago since I used on on a small ring Mauser,, but they fit pretty dang good.
And then I saw the same thing mentioned as a fix in Gunsmith Kinks 2.
I would go try it for you, but Small rings I still have, but sold off all of my 1903's before I moved here from California
That is useful knowledge, thanks.
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