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Thread: Revolvers and Paper Patching

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    Revolvers and Paper Patching

    I was curious (famous last words) if paper patched would survive the transition through a revolver cylinder to forcing cone. So apparently it does. Nine shots at 25yd, .44 magnum cases and an arbitrary load of 10.0gr Unique and patched #503 SWC (Mihec clone). No workup, zero leading, and more than half had torn or lop-sided patches that I messed up when sizing (shot them that way in the name of science). Not the smallest group, but not awful either. Probably never do it again, but it was a case of "I gots to know."

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    I tried that years ago for the same reason. Does it work? And came to the same conclusion. About the best reason I thought of is for hunting if you wanted to use really soft bullets at full speed. Otherwise not much point.
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    Would it help clean up the forcing cone?
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    Since the H&G 503 is a full-diameter 44 Magnum bullet to begin with, I'm curious how you accommodated the additional diameter of the paper patch. Did you size the bullets to 0.417" or thereabouts before patching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatume View Post
    Since the H&G 503 is a full-diameter 44 Magnum bullet to begin with, I'm curious how you accommodated the additional diameter of the paper patch. Did you size the bullets to 0.417" or thereabouts before patching?
    I can't speak for the OP but I sized them to .427" and patched up to .433" to fit the throats of my old super Blackhawk. Same size it needs naked bullets to be.
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    I used fairly soft alloy (range scrap), wet patched as-cast, smeared JPW on the patch then ran them through a .431" push thru sizer. Didn't feel like investing in a bore-diameter sizer for experimentation at this time. A few of the patches tore at the lube groove which is very wide/ no patch support on this boolit. Didn't seem to affect accuracy at such a short range, I shot the perfect patched boolits first then the "B" grade which went into the same group with no called flyers. The fliers in the pic were within the first 3 shots, possibly related to conditioning the bore. Or shooter error. As far as smoothing the forcing cone I'd considered that. This particular gun had a horrible forcing cone new out of the box- it looked like it had been cut with a tap not a reamer. It was so bad I pulled the barrel off and lapped the forcing cone along with the bore. Love the gun as it was an anniversary present but it ended up being a project getting it to perform.

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    Same story here, was doing a lot of PPing in rifles so had to try it in revolvers. I used the technique of patching the full diameter slug and running it through a sizer afterwards.

    I donít recall how many loads I tried but there were plenty. Test pistols were a Blackhawk .45Colt and FA83 .454Casull. The Colt did ok at best but nothing was particularly accurate in the 454, including light loads. I figured that there was just too much opportunity for inconsistent bullet deformation.

    After reading about cracked forcing cones, I cooled on the idea of trying to run as soft as possible in a revolver.

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    I'm happy to see that there are others that tried stuff before I did. That will save me a project. I may try it with my 30/30 if I get bitten by the bug again....
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