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Thread: Vernier Tang Sight - Advice Required

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    Vernier Tang Sight - Advice Required

    Hi All,

    Just bought my first 45-70, a slightly used Chiappa 1874 Creedmore. Its not a Shiloh or Pedersoli but I like the gun (just the sight is a pain at this moment).

    It was shipped to me with the sight leaf spring taken out. So while installing the leaf spring back on, I noticed two things, The first one is that the sight can only fold forward which will make cleaning the between shots (group of shots) impossible from the breech end. The 2nd thing is after playing with the sight, the vertical position does that hold and I have to re-adjust the leaf spring again.

    Did I install this simple thing wrong? I have read some posts that some sights are only front folding which is a bad design for a "competition" gun. Don't they clean their bores after a few shots?

    Thanks looking forward to some advice from you veteran shooters.

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    Boolit Master

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    They are not very repeatable either and the graduations are not up to snuuf. More for looks than use imho.

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    This is suppose to be a Creedmore Limited Edition rifle and they put a "show" sight on it ?

    Guess I will be buying a replacement sight

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    Boolit Master

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    Why do you think MVA sights cost as much as a rifle? First off the Chiappa is a good enough rifle for hunting but is no long range wonder the barrels are not as good as the Pedersoli and not up to Badger or Shilo Sharps standards.

    The sights are just not well enough made to be used for serious competition. If you sight in for say 300 yards and don't have to adjust them and don't mind muzzle cleaning with a guide they will work but as for actual competition where you will have to move by minutes and repeat with precision they are just not good enough. Worst still are the sights with rocker windage adjustments. A lot of the Itie stuff is made for looks or for casual plinking, hence the price difference. Pedratti, Chiappa, Pedersoli, C Sharps and Shilo all are one step or more up the ladder. The differences will also be found in the locks and the internals with the cheaper gun being made with soft internal parts and rough locks.

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    I knew the Chiappa won't stand up to the Pedersoli, let alone C Sharps or Shilo when I made the decision to buy it. I just didn't expect the sight to fold forward.

    I wanted to try BP and this was my first 45-70. The price was right and there weren't any used Pedersoli (or reasonably priced) available currently. I won't be using it past 100 yards due to poor eyes.

    Is there a replacement sight you can recommend ?

    Thanks

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    Boolit Master

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    I use the MVA soule long range sights with good results. If you replace the sight also replace the base so it matches the new sight. Lee SHavers are getting good reviews also. If yu arnt planning on past 100 yds the shorter shortrange ladder soule will get you to around 300 yds and be cheaper. Depending on what you want a standad sight might work okay and the addition of a Hadley eye cup for adjustable appetures is a plus

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