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    When I die, I won't worry about anything anymore. My wife can do what she likes with my guns. I have no children to leave them to. Although in my state when you pass the guns belong to your estate. Whoever probates the estate becomes the owner of my property if my wife would pass before me.
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    My crashing, unabated gun and gear (and fishing tackle, and fly tying...you get the idea) habits have left me with a pile of stuff, my thought on the subject is to write down the provenance, the experiences associated with each piece and then pass them around now. That's a work in progress.
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    Tell her whatever she does don't sell them for what you TOLD her you paid for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00buck View Post
    Wifey asked me if she will be able to sell my firearms if I was to kick off.

    I need a will
    Mine asked me if she could sell my guns after she smothered me in my sleep...…..

    I think I need a guard.
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    After the last couple of posts, I'll try to get this back on track. Both my wife and I have wills, power of attorney for health care and power of attorney for financial matters. I'm too lazy to go get them and look up the actual description. Every one recommends a trust. I've decided not to have one drawn up.

    As for guns, I'm starting to pull out various guns that haven't seen the light of day recently. I started giving them to my sons according to their interests. Last ones were a Sig P6 and a S&W .22 Kit Gun. The latter with a brick of ammo to get started with. The other son already has a Marlin .30-30 and I've already told him that a Ruger .22/45 is his. These were just the easy ones to decide to give away. The younger son is a Political Science/History professor so I'm sure he will end up with the mil-surps. The older son is the parent of our grandsons. They probably prefer the more modern guns. Either way, they can decide to sell them immediately or keep them after I'm gone or sell them then. It will be their decision.

    Unlike so many, my sons are well enough off and get along well enough that they will not squabble over "stuff".
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfd View Post
    seriously - i know this will sound frivolous and unthinkable, and totally not doable, but the best thing to do is leave jersey as soon as possible so you can live far freer and/or dirt nap in a state that truly has it's citizens at heart and not money or power or corruption or left wing socialist "progressive" agendas. the new and insane nj gun laws murphy just enacted are the tip of the iceberg for what's to come. this ship is going down. the wife and are making real plans for leaving asap ...
    So many people are leaving NJ and I dont blame them at all. This state is getting crazy. High taxes and insurance and gun laws that suck. I already lost some friends that moved out to other states. My brother just bought a house in PA so maybe i should look there. I'm with you on getting out of NJ but as I'm sure you know, its not that simple.

    Maybe one day though...... Its nice to dream. Have a small range in the back like Hicok45 ..... Man that would be nice

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    Why ask just do it!

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    One of the step-sons of my wife's aunt told her she was signing hospital papers to get pain medication when she was in the hospital with a broken hip. It was a power of attorney and he cleaned her out, and since she didn't allow him to have keys to her house he signed over title to her car to the house keeper and cleaned out the valuables in the house. Lawyer said simply put it would cost a fortune and take a lot of time to get the stuff back and would probably be a bit of a gamble to go to court. Might cost more than could be recovered.

    In our case we plan on leaving some items to our kids but with possession staying with the surviving spouse. In the event one of us survives the other the surviving spouse will have possession of some items but ownership transfers to the specific kid for specific items. So when the surviving spouse decides to get rid of it or dies things end up with the child that owns them. So things go where we want them to go without either one of us having to strip items from the house after losing a partner.

    Medical power of attorney and a few other things need to be addressed. One thing I suggest is looking to how your spouse or kids can divest themselves of components and supplies at a fair price. Not sure if any of the kids will set up for casting but I doubt it, and one or two might reload if the bench was still here.
    Scrap.... because all the really pithy and emphatic four letter words were taken and we had to describe this source of casting material somehow so we added an "S" to what non casters and wives call what we collect.

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    I believe it still is the only exception to the federal transfer act - inheritance. No federal transfer needed years ago, I don't know if that has been changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Smith View Post
    I believe it still is the only exception to the federal transfer act - inheritance. No federal transfer needed years ago, I don't know if that has been changed.
    If you're dealing with NFA firearms, you have to do a Form 5 (nontaxed transfer) and it's usually expedited. For non-NFA firearms you're generally okay, but the guidance is to go and retrieve them in person and then mail them to yourself or transprt them yourself. Merely having a surviving spouse or coinheritor mail them to you would be a violation of the GCA still.

    Firearms held in a trust may not have this issue since all trustees are co-owners. IANAL, and a consult with a trust lawyer would verify that

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    I've given a list of what I have to 2 friends and with the exception of 1 firearm that's to be sold they get to split the collection including all my reloading equipment,components and casting equipment. They won't have to worry about brass for a couple of lifetimes. As for the rifle a Sharps long range express with an RHO period piece Malcolm style adjustable rings and mounts I figure it should fetch a fair sum.

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    The firearms have people they should go to. However my wife can decide when she wants to part with them. And the kids can decide if they would rather have them secured at our house than at theirs.

    Components in terms of ready to reload along with mold in that caliber and dies to reload go with firearms. The stash of bulk lead will mostly be sold, just keeping the already mixed alloy for the kids to use if they want. My wife will probably be able to pay for lawn care for as long as she lives at the house if the rest of the stash was sold. That is where having friends you can trust that know casting and reloading comes in. One problem is wife keeps saying "why don't you sell that lead now so we don't have to do yard work" she is sweet, a good cook, but man she has some crazy notions sometimes.

    In Mich. you need to take your inherited handguns down to the sheriff's office for a "safety check" which is really registration by another name. Not sure of the specifics of legal requirements but I know a friend who inherited his fathers firearms did that, and pretty sure it is mandatory for the handguns.
    Scrap.... because all the really pithy and emphatic four letter words were taken and we had to describe this source of casting material somehow so we added an "S" to what non casters and wives call what we collect.

    Kind of hard to claim to love America while one is hating half the Americans that disagree with you. One nation indivisible requires work.

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    There are exceptions to the usual transfers for inheritance transfers.
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/whom...arms-under-gca

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    You should have a will designating heirs and an executor named in the will who will dispose of your property as per the terms of the will.
    If it all goes to your spouse - name her executor and heir.
    If you name a third party as executor, the executor has a legal obligation to dispose of property as per the terms of the will.

    Not having a will can be very complicated and sometimes expensive if legal issues arise.
    Go now and pour yourself a hot one...

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    Not knowing nj law I can't say for sure. I would assume that first the wepons would have to be transferred into her name. The she would have to go threw a dealer?

    Texas is much easer,my wife would be free to sell our wepons to anyone she pleases, without any red tape. The only exception would be that she would have to go threw a ffl dealer to sell a pistol out of state
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    I had a friend years ago that had alot of top end guns and some full auto stuff. He told me he had it set up that if any thing happened to him that he had all the papers and stuff all set so that a dealer he knew could handle the transfers and sales.
    We go through life trying to make the best decisions we can based on the best infomation we can find, that turns out to be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer in NH View Post
    A will becomes a court order.
    Unless it's contested. Then the state settles it, and they couldn't care less except they get their share.
    Information not shared. is wasted.

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    Hopefully she sells them for more than you told her you paid for them lol...

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    let her die first proublem solved
    when the dust settles and the smoke clears all that matters is I hear the words " well done my good and faithfully servant "

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    My son gets all Guns, and gun gear, hunting gear per my WILL. Wife gets life estate of our home on my 1/2, Son gets to live there per my WILL. Son receives my 1/2 when the wife dies.

    Lawyer and Tax guy has copies of both. Will is self proving and final per NH law.

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