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Thread: Federal's new primer technology

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    Boolit Master
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    During the Clinton and the current primer shortage Federal primers were the first to disappear and the last to become available again.
    In the mean time I have used a lot of Rem and WW primers with excellent results. Regardless of Federal's technology they are not supporting handloaders. I have decided to abandon the use of their primers. With Federal out of the way it should be easy to amass a life time supply and quit wasting time looking for the product that is never available.

    Both RP and WW seem to be abandoning brass manufacture.
    It appears that those companies with their short term profit goals are letting S&B and PPU into the US market without fighting back. I call it slow motion suicide...
    Last edited by EDG; 07-23-2018 at 03:46 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 59sharps View Post
    I checked with federal unfortunately they are only avalable in loaded ammo. So we maybe waiting awhile .
    They're probably going to need time to blow up some guns in testing - at least if this stuff is "so revolutionarily wazoo different" as to require a complete, start from minimum load workup on every conceivable powder charge. Plenty of folks out there treat primers as 100% interchangeable, so Federal likely has to address the Bubba factor.
    WWJMBD?

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    We are in the process of making the tools and process of making our own primers because:
    Primers, being one of the components that are extremely difficult to procure without purchasing from large companies, can be dramatically overpriced (just because they can). Which doesn't sit well by me. When I go to the store and see primers for $.04 per primer and the rest of the round costing less than $.02 per round I think, "OK I'm getting ripped off here". What I do about it is to bypass the supplier by making my own primers.
    To me the BY FAR most difficult part of making primers is the compound because I am not a chemist. But with Marshall developing priming compounds that currently outperform the stuff the commercial makers use...the rest is a trivial matter of drawing cups and stamping dies... which for me is a completely new endeavor. I have never tried to make the tooling for such parts but it is very straightforward and should be a very easy exersise for someone who is familiar with punching and stamping operations. So if no one steps up and develops the tooling. By God I will do it myself.
    This is how I keep my poor but from getting ripped off.
    AKA hans.pcguy

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    They are only using it in loaded ammo. Its already available
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    for now its just loaded ammo. I will buy up as much large rifle and pistol match primers that I can until the new formula shows up in reloading components. Once that happens I will buy some to try out but for some reason I dont expect that they will preform the same for me as the ones I use now

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    No concern to me.I use WW and CCI primers and have a lot of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john.k View Post
    One of the residues will be aluminium oxide,a well known abrasive used commercially in grinding wheels and coated sheets.
    Helps keep the Bores nice and shiny! Lol...

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check