RotoMetals2Titan ReloadingRepackboxInline Fabrication
Reloading EverythingLoad DataWidenersSnyders Jerky
MidSouth Shooters Supply Lee Precision
Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1234
Results 61 to 79 of 79

Thread: S&W Model 14 soured

  1. #61
    Boolit Grand Master Tatume's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    VA
    Posts
    5,586
    Froggie, PM sent.

  2. #62
    Boolit Grand Master Tatume's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    VA
    Posts
    5,586
    The Model 14 was returned from S&W. The work order was terse:

    Cylinder worn
    Replace cylinder (blue)
    Replace hand
    Replace bolt

    Yesterday I tested the gun. It shoots one-inch groups at 100 yards. All is well.

    Take care, Tom

  3. #63
    Boolit Master
    Mal Paso's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Carmel, Ca
    Posts
    4,121
    Look at the fired brass, are the firing pin marks off center. When my 629 was out of time you could see it on the primers.

    Normal wear was the issue. The problem showed after an especially long day of shooting. The extra crud put more than the usual drag on the cylinder. Accuracy went from great to awful in one afternoon.

    IF that's the problem Brownelles has an aftermarket hand that you don't have to file the window on the gun to fit.

    Nevermind, Didn't have my coffee yet.
    Last edited by Mal Paso; 10-14-2018 at 10:08 AM.
    Mal

    Mal Paso means Bad Pass, just so you know.

  4. #64
    Boolit Master

    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Foothills, NC
    Posts
    2,223
    I'm glad S&W came through for you.

  5. #65
    Moderator Emeritus


    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    SW Montana
    Posts
    12,474
    Glad it worked for you.
    [The Montana Gianni] Front sight and squeeze

  6. #66
    Boolit Master nvbirdman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Fallon, Nv.
    Posts
    656
    Sounds like you got your moneys worth.

  7. #67
    Boolit Grand Master
    9.3X62AL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Redlands, NorKifornia
    Posts
    11,551
    That is a REALLY GOOD outcome.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

  8. #68
    Boolit Grand Master Tatume's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    VA
    Posts
    5,586
    I'm so sorry. I meant to say "one-inch groups at 25 yards."

  9. #69
    Boolit Grand Master Char-Gar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Deep South Texas
    Posts
    12,820
    Quote Originally Posted by Tatume View Post
    I'm so sorry. I meant to say "one-inch groups at 25 yards."
    I am glad you made that correcton. I will now have to take back what I was thinking.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

  10. #70
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    4,377
    Quote Originally Posted by Tatume View Post
    I'm so sorry. I meant to say "one-inch groups at 25 yards."
    I was getting ready to complain about mine and send it in.

  11. #71
    Boolit Master
    JoeJames's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    Arkansas Delta
    Posts
    1,468
    Quote Originally Posted by Tatume View Post
    I'm so sorry. I meant to say "one-inch groups at 25 yards."
    That's a relief. It would of certainly made my old Model 15 look bad.

  12. #72
    Boolit Master


    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    NH
    Posts
    3,783
    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer in NH View Post
    Trip to S&W needed
    As I said 3 1/2 months ago. They will fix when they can. Doomsayers and not likers Pltttttttt!

    S&W has always been first class to me.

  13. #73
    Boolit Grand Master Tatume's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    VA
    Posts
    5,586
    The gun was at S&W about 3-1/2 months. I didn't ignore you.

  14. #74
    Boolit Buddy glockfan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    partly VT,partly canada
    Posts
    481
    the only valid test to perform is ''magnaflux'ing''' the gun. it'll tell the story.if there's no microcracks, then swapping some springs-parts will get the accuracy back.

  15. #75
    Boolit Master

    Rattlesnake Charlie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Victor, CO
    Posts
    1,379
    Replacing the cylinder, bolt, and hand indicate there was significant wear. With no mention of replacing the barrel it makes me think now there might have been a crack in the cylinder since the problem began from one day to the next. Without the original cylinder to inspect, not much else to do now that enjoy a great shooting revolver. Glad things worked out well.

  16. #76
    Boolit Grand Master Tatume's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    VA
    Posts
    5,586
    Quote Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Charlie View Post
    Replacing the cylinder, bolt, and hand indicate there was significant wear. With no mention of replacing the barrel it makes me think now there might have been a crack in the cylinder since the problem began from one day to the next. Without the original cylinder to inspect, not much else to do now that enjoy a great shooting revolver. Glad things worked out well.
    Actually, they returned the original cylinder. Although I agree with you, I still can't find a crack.

    Quote Originally Posted by glockfan View Post
    the only valid test to perform is ''magnaflux'ing''' the gun. it'll tell the story.if there's no microcracks, then swapping some springs-parts will get the accuracy back.
    I strongly suspect magnafluxing would find a crack in the cylinder. The original owner said he was shooting the gun, and it was shooting well. Then on one shot he felt some vibration, and it never shot well again. We think that was when the crack occurred.

    I'm not going to spend the money to find the crack by magnafluxing. It's an interesting academic question, but the answer has no practical value, as I'll never repair the faulty cylinder.

    Take care, Tom

  17. #77
    Boolit Grand Master
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Central VA
    Posts
    5,542
    Tom,

    I've seen some really neat pencil holders made out of "retired" cylinders... maybe you should find a little slab of some pretty wood and make one for your desk from the cracked(?) cylinder. There wouldn't be any pressure on it and accuracy would be a moot point.

    Froggie
    "It aint easy being green!"

  18. #78
    Boolit Grand Master Char-Gar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Deep South Texas
    Posts
    12,820
    I would surmise from the parts replace, the star/ratchet on the back of the cylinder was worn, as well as both the bolt and hand that contracted the cylinder.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

  19. #79
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    CSRA of Ga/SC
    Posts
    375
    My first center fire revolver was a Model 14 S&W... l hope it will survive me.

Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1234

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check