11-12 grains of 2400 behind a 158 LSWC in a Special case will duplicate the old 38-44 loads. Figure 1100-1200 fps. Safe in a 357, but not for use in a Special only gun. I got the load from a Handloader article Venturino did about the 38-44. I've shot alot of this load in my 686 and Coonan.
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