StainLess Steel MediaGraf & SonsLee PrecisionInline Fabrication
MidSouth Shooters SupplyWidenersRotoMetals2Titan Reloading

Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: sizing cast bullet's nose

  1. #1
    Boolit Man
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    89

    sizing cast bullet's nose

    hello;

    have four different 30/30 rifles and have four different .30 caliber bullet casting molds. all 4 rifle have the same issue, short chambers. a bullet’s nose bumped against rifling is good for accuracy but useless if you can’t close the action. all of the molds i have cast bullets with a nose diameter of .302”. any cast .30 caliber bullet with a nose diameter large than .300” will not chamber in my 30/30 rifles.

    has anyone ever used a noe neck sizer die bushing to reduce a cast a bullets nose diameter? thanks for any input.

    rp

  2. #2
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    northern Minn. in the boonies
    Posts
    1,952
    You can go with the NOE replacement inserts, or custom size lee push through sizers.
    You just have to figure out how far into the sizer the bullet should go. An have a system for pushing the bullet back out of the die.
    You also have to decide how much at a time you want to size the bullet noses to. Too much force can bend or resize other portions of the bullet.

  3. #3
    Boolit Master
    FredBuddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    271
    RP:

    I'll answer your question in the next day or two as my NOE nose sizer is on the way.

    Same problem!

  4. #4
    Boolit Master popper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    7,649
    I've got the NOE stuff, I'll stick with Lee pushthru, thank you. Nose sizer doesn't have enough relief at the entrance. You need a top punch to get the boolit out - if it doesn't stick. Try a fender washer drilled (and polished) of the correct size. Place over the nose, place base on Lee stud and press to the proper depth. Tap the boolit out with a light hammer blow. My RD style only takes ~ 0.1" resizing to work fine - 336 30/30 Or just seat 0.1" deeper.
    Whatever!

  5. #5
    Boolit Master

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    1,172
    I have used a 30 cal RCBS collet puller to swage down an NOE 316299 nose. Takes a bit of time to get the feel of it, but does work.
    Gun control 1ST ROUND ON TARGET.

  6. #6
    Boolit Master
    FredBuddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    271
    I'm only a month late with my experience:

    Yes, the NOE nose sizer solved my 30/30 chambering problem - the Lee 150 was OK, if just lubed. As Popper indicated, the entrance is not beveled (by design) so powder coated boolits get scraped.

    The same situation exists for lubed 165 RD from NOE, i.e. a bit of lead gets scraped but easily rubs off.

    However , it is a very tedious process since every boolit sticks in the die and must be tapped out with a dowel. In another thread, Outpost 75 commented that the best solution to the problem is get a custom mould properly dimensioned at the nose. He is correct!!!

    I forget if I mentioned in other posts on the subject that I noticed I also have a boolit runout problem, so I am also looking for a better seating die.

    6 30/30's, only two are fussy - both Marlins. The 788 is a champ.

  7. #7
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    3,340
    It's easiest to do on a Lyman or RCBS, it has adj. stop for consistency, and it ejects automatically, a lot of .30 molds have too wide a nose and too narrow a body.

  8. #8
    Boolit Master


    Kraschenbirn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    East Central IL
    Posts
    2,491
    A definite 'thumbs up' for the NOE. Yeah, I had to make my own extended top punch to eject the sized boolits but, other than that, Al's set-up does the job quite nicely.

    Bill
    "I'm not often right but I've never been wrong."

    Jimmy Buffett
    "Scarlet Begonias"

  9. #9
    Boolit Master


    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Perryville, Ky,USA
    Posts
    3,872
    Eagan use to make tapered nose sizers that were very handy for this purpose. I attempted to make a .300" nose first sizer for the Lyman 450 out of a smaller sizer reamed out to .300. The holes were left naturally. The bullet went in fine. Attempting to eject the bullet caused lead to bump/flow into the holes making it almost impossible to remove. Lesson learned.
    The Eagans are a solid tapered die. I had no problems using them and they took a 30-180-SP nose down to where I could get a decent seating depth for a Number 1 Ruger .30/06./beagle

    One of these can be easily knocked out by one of the machinists on here./beagle
    diplomacy is being able to say, "nice doggie" until you find a big rock.....

  10. #10
    Boolit Master Forrest r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Posts
    1,355
    I use the eagan nose sizing die quite a bit along with a nose sizing die I made to fit the lyman 450 using a 3/4* 30cal throating reamer. Between the 2 I can pretty much taper/re-size any cast bullet to fit all of the different 30cal's that I own.

  11. #11
    Short chamber? The bore is supposed to be .300

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check