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Thread: CLOSED - MP-Molds - 165 grain 40 Caliber 2 and 4 cavity mold - Perfect bullet weight!

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    I'm still hanging out to see where this goes.
    Tax payer dollars spent to determine the best weight for LEO use has nothing to do with what actually works for an individual shooter. If the 44 Magnum was the subject of a study funded by tax payer dollars to determine the best weight for LEO use I highly doubt they would settle on 300 grains as best. For my purpose 300 grains is a very useful weight for the 44 magnum.

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    The semi auto pistols have always been the primary focus of the studies. Only Clint Eastwood considered the 44 magnum as the quintessential service gun.
    Repeating for the sake of focus:
    9mm = 124/125 grains
    .40 S&W = 165 grains
    45 ACP = 200 grains



    Quote Originally Posted by Highland Drifter View Post
    I'm still hanging out to see where this goes.
    Tax payer dollars spent to determine the best weight for LEO use has nothing to do with what actually works for an individual shooter. If the 44 Magnum was the subject of a study funded by tax payer dollars to determine the best weight for LEO use I highly doubt they would settle on 300 grains as best. For my purpose 300 grains is a very useful weight for the 44 magnum.


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    Add me to the list, probably would go with 4 cav brass, groved, all pins but would PC to run in my Glock.
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    Thanks, I have added you to the list, with your preferences noted.
    This should go live soon, and I'll need the rest of the details ( disguised email, zip code, etc.)

    Oh, and as you properly note, a grooved casting can also be powder coated/epoxy coated and still shoot well. I've not seen any difference, and so you should be quite happy with the ability to either size and lube the normal way, and also powder coat or epoxy coat. Best of both worlds!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Minerat View Post
    Add me to the list, probably would go with 4 cav brass, groved, all pins but would PC to run in my Glock.


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    I will take the 6 cavity aluminum with no lube grooves when this goes live, Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeInFlorida View Post
    Thanks, I have added you to the list, with your preferences noted.
    This should go live soon, and I'll need the rest of the details ( disguised email, zip code, etc.)

    Oh, and as you properly note, a grooved casting can also be powder coated/epoxy coated and still shoot well. I've not seen any difference, and so you should be quite happy with the ability to either size and lube the normal way, and also powder coat or epoxy coat. Best of both worlds!!
    My thinking too. Pm with pp email ok? Or wait till it goes avtive?
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    Added, thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Loudy13 View Post
    I will take the 6 cavity aluminum with no lube grooves when this goes live, Thank you
    Please wait until it goes ACTIVE, which should happen soon. That way, I can get everyone's info, and plug it all in in a session or two.

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    My thinking too. Pm with pp email ok? Or wait till it goes avtive?


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    OK Duke, sounds like a good plan. Thanks,
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    I'd be in for a 4 cavity HP, I'd like to try a NLG just because. Not a deal breaker if lube groove is the only option though.

    In regards to HP pins, it would be interesting to make one set a BIG pin and turn this into a dual purpose design as an explosive varminter in addition to a defense boolit. Perhaps a standard-ish 8-10gr pin set (155-160gr) as in the drawing, and one set dropping it down to a 130-140gr HP? I could live without the cup point pins. Just suggesting a new angle.

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    Added to the list. Thanks.
    If in for PINS, you will get ALL the pins. You can use them as you see fit. What some of us do is use a Dremel tool and chop off the pin side, turn the pin insert around, and use it as a solid nose insert.
    It's one way to get a solid nose version AND a HP version in one. I see your request for no groove.


    Quote Originally Posted by KVO View Post
    I'd be in for a 4 cavity HP, I'd like to try a NLG just because. Not a deal breaker if lube groove is the only option though.

    In regards to HP pins, it would be interesting to make one set a BIG pin and turn this into a dual purpose design as an explosive varminter in addition to a defense boolit. Perhaps a standard-ish 8-10gr pin set (155-160gr) as in the drawing, and one set dropping it down to a 130-140gr HP? I could live without the cup point pins. Just suggesting a new angle.


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    Please put me down for a 2 cavity HP GC with all pins as well as a 6 cavity solid plain base. Unless if Miha could do this one in an 8 cavity? In which case I would prefer the 8 cavity.

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    .360 is as big as he can go on an 8 cavity.
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    Added, gas checked and plain base. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodAlloy View Post
    Please put me down for a 2 cavity HP GC with all pins as well as a 6 cavity solid plain base. Unless if Miha could do this one in an 8 cavity? In which case I would prefer the 8 cavity.
    True that. Thanks for confirmation that this one won't be ever an 8 cavity.

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    .360 is as big as he can go on an 8 cavity.


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    This should be a dandy shooter guys!!!

    Mihas other 165 gr hp sure is
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    Good evening. I would be interested in a six cavity, WITH lube groove, SOLID point, no pins. Aluminum. Plain Base. Thank you.

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    Added to the interest discussion. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedHawk357Mag View Post
    Good evening. I would be interested in a six cavity, WITH lube groove, SOLID point, no pins. Aluminum. Plain Base. Thank you.

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    Please notice that I have added, for you powder coat and epoxy fans, the drawing for that version of this bullet. Missing the lube groove, it's a little bit heavier than the normal boolit design. However, that is what you asked for anyways. Should suit the PC/Epoxy needs quite perfectly.

    From the discussions I am having at my gun club, with Nationally ranked tournament shooters, the (two part) EPOXY coating seems to be the preferred coating. The PC version was flaky (literally) over tens of thousands of coated boolits, whereas the Epoxy version never failed. The preferred Epoxy system was the Hi-Tek system. Does that agree with what you all have experienced?

    I'm all set up for high volume Lubricizing (both Star and Lyman) and don't feel any personal need to coat any boolits. Just curious as to what you coaters are doing.


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    Duke, the PC drawing looks good to me. When I coat I use powder, either DT or ES method. I've never had an issue with dry powder flaking off. The basic process passed the hammer test very well. I use mostly Eastwood, or a few powders I get off ebay.

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    The reports that I have gotten back from tournament shooters who shoot tens of thousands of bullets a year seemed to indicate that it's the sharp edges of the lands and grooves that cause the PC to get cut, and flake during the firing process. Seems to have something to do with the "hardness" of the plastic coating. Whereas the two part epoxy (Hi Tek) coating method results in a softer coating that doesn't get cut and flake like the PC does. I have never tried either process, so I can't speak from any personal experience. However, as an NRA Reloading instructor, I have hundreds of PULLED bullet samples that I review (and show to students). The epoxy coated ones survive the pulling process perfectly. The PC coated pulled bullets have pieces of coating missing after pulling with an inertia bullet puller. Not sure what that all means.

    Bottom line: I'm all set up for normal lubricizing, and will always want the normal lube groove type mold. Miha is happy to accommodate whichever style of mold you desire.

    Quote Originally Posted by Highland Drifter View Post
    Duke, the PC drawing looks good to me. When I coat I use powder, either DT or ES method. I've never had an issue with dry powder flaking off. The basic process passed the hammer test very well. I use mostly Eastwood, or a few powders I get off ebay.


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    I do believe I'd be interested in one of these bad boys!

    4 Cavity Bullet Lube or Powder Coat style (no lube groove)and no mixing of types in single mold, Hollow Point, all pins, Brass

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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
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