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    Buffalo Arms, formally Cabine Tree locking mold handles

    I realize that these type of handles may be an acquired taste but I really like them, especially the Buffalo Arms version that is all aluminum. Once adjusted I never get a blooper from uneven handle pressure and since I have periphrial neuropathy I have trouble in this area. It makes consistent casting possible for me.

    Anyway, the one thing I don't like about the mold is that the left side handle is just an aluminum rod. I think I'm going to buy a small wooden handle for a file or a chisel and fit it over the rod.

    Does anyone have a similar feeling about this obscure mold handle? Do you like it like I do? Or do you hate it as overly complicated, heavy and does't really perform a useful function?
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    That handle set up is the reason I've never bought a set to try.
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    When I get it all set up I'll post a pic and let you know if it works or not. Right now it doesn't handle as well as it should when opening it. It never gets hot but that thin rod is not much to grab on to.
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    I was scolding my 5-year old for her and her friends making a giant mess in her room. She said they all did it. So I asked her: If all her friends jumped off a cliff, would she do it too? She said, "Oh no daddy! I would go to the bottom and try to catch them! They're my friends." Man, either I have a great kid or she has a stupid father.

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    I'll take the normal handles! They work great for me.
    The CabineTree type are a solution to problems I don't have.

    However, for anyone that it helps them cast and keeps them in the game, Perfect! I am glad there is a choice.
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    I can understand that. I think that bare metal rod really puts people off. I added a handle off a Lee mold to see how it would work and I can truly say it's a genuine improvement in everyway. I really don't undersatnd why they don't do that when they make them. After all, it's not like these things are cheap.

    The addition of that simple wood handle makes these handles so much easier to work with.... pic to come.
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    I was scolding my 5-year old for her and her friends making a giant mess in her room. She said they all did it. So I asked her: If all her friends jumped off a cliff, would she do it too? She said, "Oh no daddy! I would go to the bottom and try to catch them! They're my friends." Man, either I have a great kid or she has a stupid father.

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    When casting I use the single wood handle as the grasping part of the mould and the metal rod is only used as a break open bar. I sharply jerk the metal bar and the mould breaks free. Once my mould is up to temps I never have to use a tapping stick, the bullets break free almost 100% of the time.
    I really like mine. I have adapted one for a Hoch top pour mould and it runs perfect.
    I don't set mine too tight. Just tight enough to achieve good lockup and seal.
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    As I have aged, arthritis has grown, strength and endurance has diminished, so I definitely do not need anything heavier than what I already have.

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    I agree with the weight. I don't want anything heavier either. This is their aluminum version and it is very light. Add an aluminum mold and life is good. Here's a pic of the handle I added. It really does work better, at least for me. The fumbling is gone.
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    The good thing about science is that it's true no matter if you believe it or not. (Neil DeGrasse Tyson)

    I was scolding my 5-year old for her and her friends making a giant mess in her room. She said they all did it. So I asked her: If all her friends jumped off a cliff, would she do it too? She said, "Oh no daddy! I would go to the bottom and try to catch them! They're my friends." Man, either I have a great kid or she has a stupid father.

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    I have to say those look like they would work well. Hard to believe they wouldn't have put a handle on that small bar. Adding the handle makes sense to me. after seeing them, I think I will look them up.

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    I swear, for me, they improved the handling of the mold 100%. One of the things that really makes it work is the light weight, compared to the steel version, which sounds ridiculous or worse, the original Cabine Tree model which weighed a ton. This version of the locking handle, is all aluminum and the LBT mold is light, even for an aluminum mold as it's on the small side.

    I was fortunate to have a drill bit long enough to make it far enough down the handle to let the rod go deep enough.
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    I was scolding my 5-year old for her and her friends making a giant mess in her room. She said they all did it. So I asked her: If all her friends jumped off a cliff, would she do it too? She said, "Oh no daddy! I would go to the bottom and try to catch them! They're my friends." Man, either I have a great kid or she has a stupid father.

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    Buffalo Arms, formally Cabine Tree locking mold handles

    Adding a wood handle to the rod isnít necessary. It simply adds weight to an already very heavy set of handles. All handling is done w/ the one that has the wood on it already.

    I donít like the handles one bit for casting w/ hollow point molds. Itís really awkward to use it. Iíve also had galling issues w/ aluminum molds around the alignment pins. This is because thereís a good bit of play in the mold to handle fit. If I donít place the mold on a flat surface before closing, the pins beat up the mold. But this to the expected since steel is harder.

    I stopped using the pair I have, original CaineTree, because of the issues I mentioned. I didnít see any consistency improvements w/ them. But I can see how they could be an advantage for people w/ arthritis. Assuming you can deal w/ the added weight.
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    I just drill a piece of 3/4 oak dowel rod 4" long the size of the rod and glue it on with jb weld epoxy. I round the ends for a comfortable feel also. Mine are the old style cabine trees and the reach to unclip them was rough for me. A little tru oil or finish and they are good to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    Adding a wood handle to the rod isnít necessary. It simply adds weight to an already very heavy set of handles. All handling is done w/ the one that has the wood on it already.

    I donít like the handles one bit for casting w/ hollow point molds. Itís really awkward to use it. Iíve also had galling issues w/ aluminum molds around the alignment pins. This is because thereís a good bit of play in the mold to handle fit. If I donít place the mold on a flat surface before closing, the pins beat up the mold. But this to the expected since steel is harder.

    I stopped using the pair I have, original CaineTree, because of the issues I mentioned. I didnít see any consistency improvements w/ them. But I can see how they could be an advantage for people w/ arthritis. Assuming you can deal w/ the added weight.
    As I originally stated. I have peripheral neuropathy in my hands, the locking handles help me.
    There are 3 versions of these handles.
    1) Original Cabine Tree handles. They are huge and can take 4 and 6 cavity molds, made out of steel and weigh a ton.
    2) Buffalo Arms steel handles, smaller, much lighter. Two cavity molds only.
    3) Buffalo Arms all aluminum handles, lighter still, about the same weight as normal steel handles or much less than say giant Lyman handles.

    The addition of the small, light wood handle added very little weight and has allowed me to deal with handle set much more easily and produce very consistent bullets. I just couldn't deal with that bare rod any more.
    The good thing about science is that it's true no matter if you believe it or not. (Neil DeGrasse Tyson)

    I was scolding my 5-year old for her and her friends making a giant mess in her room. She said they all did it. So I asked her: If all her friends jumped off a cliff, would she do it too? She said, "Oh no daddy! I would go to the bottom and try to catch them! They're my friends." Man, either I have a great kid or she has a stupid father.

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