"Wolf-like" creature shot in Montana.

[Traffer]

Back in the early 70's hippie days. I knew a guy who owned a female wolf. He bred her with dogs and sold the pups. The DNR in Wisconsin took the wolf away because he didn't have it kept in a proper concrete floored kennel. A couple weeks after they confiscated it, it died in their care. It was his pet.

[john.k]

Any kind of wild dogs bred with domestic dogs,especially very large dogs are a nightmare for farmers......They have all the cunning and savagery of wild dogs,but no fear of human scent....They dont restrict themselves to sheep,but tear cattle to pieces, hunting in small groups....They are too smart to form large packs,and restrict to small family groups..........They are extremely difficult to shoot,and rarely frequent the same spot .

[GhostHawk]

The only dog I ever saw who regularly caught fox squirrels all on their own was a cross.

Part wolf, part coyote, part dog. She was scary smart. She would lay out on the front lawn and watch the silage pile. When the squirrel got far enough from his tree she would be off, a low gray streak. And she did not run at the squirrel, she ran for the tree. She'd take it right off the trunk some 3-5 feet up as she flew by.

And for the next 3 hours she'd lay out there chewing, head first with the squirrel tail bobbing up and down with every chew.

She saved my hide one day when a rather nasty bull had me tree'd on a gate post. And he was fixin to take that post down and stomp me.

She heard my yell, came a running, took one look, sized up the situation. Faced the bull head on, when he charged she grabbed him by the nose. I saw him spin her 3 times around no part of her touching ground. Then she had her feet on the ground and was leading him away. When she was ready she released, slipped through his legs, nipped at a heel, and ran him out to the pasture a quarter mile away and back 3 times. Yipping and nipping and teaching him a lesson.

2 weeks later that bull almost killed the boss. Broke 3 ribs. And then me and the wolf were both there getting him clear. We ate that bull, dang good hamburger.

Loved that wolf. She was a good one.

[JSnover]

Terrible thing to say about that poor wolfdog.

Shot for mistaken identity?

[Traffer]

The only dog I ever saw who regularly caught fox squirrels all on their own was a cross.

Part wolf, part coyote, part dog. She was scary smart. She would lay out on the front lawn and watch the silage pile. When the squirrel got far enough from his tree she would be off, a low gray streak. And she did not run at the squirrel, she ran for the tree. She'd take it right off the trunk some 3-5 feet up as she flew by.

And for the next 3 hours she'd lay out there chewing, head first with the squirrel tail bobbing up and down with every chew.

She saved my hide one day when a rather nasty bull had me tree'd on a gate post. And he was fixin to take that post down and stomp me.

She heard my yell, came a running, took one look, sized up the situation. Faced the bull head on, when he charged she grabbed him by the nose. I saw him spin her 3 times around no part of her touching ground. Then she had her feet on the ground and was leading him away. When she was ready she released, slipped through his legs, nipped at a heel, and ran him out to the pasture a quarter mile away and back 3 times. Yipping and nipping and teaching him a lesson.

2 weeks later that bull almost killed the boss. Broke 3 ribs. And then me and the wolf were both there getting him clear. We ate that bull, dang good hamburger.

Loved that wolf. She was a good one.

Thanks for sharing that great story.

[Walks]

I read once that at the start of the colonization of the America's that the Indians had their own unique species of dog but not a wolf-dog hybrid. It's been extinct for over a 100yrs. Maybe a few survived on their own and live in the deep woods and/or mountains of the North.

What ever it is it can't be a dire wolf. Those things stood over 4ft tall at the shoulders and had less flexible leg joints than modern dogs or wolves. Dissected, that would show up immediately.

[smokeywolf]

Shot for mistaken identity?

Possibly, I don't know enough of the details to make a any kind of educated guess, and I won't make an uneducated one.

We've had 3 wolfdogs over the last 20+ years. You really must know what you're doing with them or you'll paint yourself into a corner. They're considerably smarter than the average domesticated dog in that they seem to be able to understand "cause and effect". GhostHawk's story is a pretty good illustration of that.

Wolfdogs also seem more capable of reading your moods and intentions than their fully domesticated cousins.

Anyone thinking about getting a wolfdog, consider this; they're not good watch dogs. Throw them a steak and they'll show you where the TVs or valuables are.
Unless they perceive that you are in trouble, as you are the alpha in the pack, they see it as your job to protect them, not the other way around.

If you think you want a wolfdog, study first, study second, then look for low content and ideally mixed with Malamute or maybe American Alsatian. I've seen quite a few wolf/German Shepherd crosses that resulted in odd looks and inconsistent temperament.

[jonp]

Hybred. Uncommon as a wolf pack is more likely to kill a stray dog than let it into a pack but not unheard of. A coyote-dog hybred has never been confirmed through DNA that I'm aware of but it's been a few years since I was doing the lab testing.

[Eddie17]

Like write up an info smokeywolf.
Thanks for the info.

[Southern Son]

Don't know how it ended up in the US, but that is a rare sub species of Drop Bear (the Long Legged Drop Bear), native to Australia.

[texasnative46]

jonp,

FYI, our official TEXAS STATE DOG (the TX Blue Lacey) is a sort of coydog. = The Lacey family won't tell anyone EXACTLY what breeds were used to "create" the Blue Lacey Stock Dog but coyote is ONE of those canines.

Fwiw, we used to own (or were owned by??) a GSD/wolf cross. = Her "call name" was "Donna" & her ALPHA was my late wife.
("VK" called her "my shadow that goes in & out with me". = Lord help the person who bothered her, as "Donna" was very protective & was always within touching distance of her left hand. ===> "Donna" often went on her photo shoots & if you looked carefully at the Black Velvet whiskey magazine ads (YEP, the lady in the white evening gown was my wife.) in ESQUIRE magazine in the Fall of 1978, you can see the tip of Donna's tail in the photo, peeping out from behind a big vase of roses..)

yours, tex

[Hardcast416taylor]

Did they finally put Roseann down?Robert

[Mr_Sheesh]

Out, anyways, but we can hope

[richhodg66]

When they found it, did it have a Chinese menu in its hand, walking through the streets of Soho in the rain? (Warren Zevon fans will get it)

[Bulldogger]

When they found it, did it have a Chinese menu in its hand, walking through the streets of Soho in the rain? (Warren Zevon fans will get it)

For to get a big dish of beef chow mein

[richhodg66]

For to get a big dish of beef chow mein

From a place called Lee Ho Fooks, of course.

[Mohawk Daddy]

From a place called Lee Ho Fooks, of course.

And his hair was perfect.

[nagantguy]

Better stay away from him he’ll rip your lungs out Jim!

[Three44s]

..... Ah hooooo........ !


Three44s

[clum553946]

Better stay away from him he’ll rip your lungs out Jim!

I’d like to meet his tailor!