i've always cast all my bullets 'n' balls, for handguns, centerfire and muzzleloader rifles, and even smoothbore flintlocks, but after sampling a few different brand hi-tec handgun bullets for both .45acp and .357mag, they are simply better than lubed or softer coated bullets, no barrel leading, just about as cheap, and no work needed on my part. now i've been enlightened - what took me so long? dang.