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Thread: Does practice with a 22 pistol improve your defensive shooting skill?

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    shooting is shooting the more you do the better you get even using a cap and ball pistol is still shooting. it all comes down to sight alignment and trigger control. which is only learned by doing.

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    Practice shooting as you would in any situation. Any caliber will help you, remember, sight picture. Trigger pull and follow threw. If you are using a revolver practice shooting double action. Learn to shoot with either hand right barricade and left barricade. Learn to point and fire. The average shooter needs to find point of fire from draw, most if pointing at left shoulder will hit center mass.
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    If I were going to practice defensive shooting with any gun,
    I would get a holster that allowed me not to fumble the gun.
    (watch the video)

    Also one I could place the gun into without having to holster it half way.
    Also not almost drop the gun. ( sloppy holster work )

    As for the subject matter? (been beat to death)

    Does it help ? it's subjective, I say leave it to the individual.
    Good for a new shooter for a little getting use to a handgun.
    Then get off it and practice with the gun of your choice.
    The one you will use to defend your life.

    I can't get passed the sloppy holster work.
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    Nothing else to add really but to echo that quality trigger time helps. Same with dry firing and dry manipulation drills.

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    Yes, it helps. In a defensive situation you probably won't even hear the firearm going off, but with all that you must be aware of you may not even notice the recoil.

    You will notice the ringing in your ears after the situation is settled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom W. View Post
    Yes, it helps. In a defensive situation you probably won't even hear the firearm going off, but with all that you must be aware of you may not even notice the recoil.

    You will notice the ringing in your ears after the situation is settled.
    This was my experience, 10:30 P.M. with low artificial lighting in a strip mall rear alley. I did see my muzzle flashes when I returned fire after being hit. 2 hits out of five fired, 26 feet apart.
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    While it doesn't hurt, 38 specials for a caster are still cheaper than 22.
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    I don't see how it could hurt. I think I would certainly help with multiple targets having to transition find the sights and a proper trigger pull in my opinion is best practiced with live ammo especially if practicing with a auto. As many others have stated trigger time is very important proper trigger time. Having to rack a slide for every trigger pull makes it hard to practice multiple targets. Of course just like the post above this is mph ymmv

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    I spent my youth shooting a Crosman 1377 pellet pistol. Many thousands of rounds. Switching to a centerfire pistol was pretty easy after that. If you are confident that you can put rounds on target you then can concentrate on the situation at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MT Gianni View Post
    While it doesn't hurt, 38 specials for a caster are still cheaper than 22.
    IDK about that. A few years ago yes, but 22's are back to 5 cents or less a pop. Primer and powder is 5 cents per.

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    Quote Originally Posted by str8wal View Post
    IDK about that. A few years ago yes, but 22's are back to 5 cents or less a pop. Primer and powder is 5 cents per.
    True. In addition you have the cost of the lead involved unless you get it free. The time it takes to cast, lube, and assemble ammo is not negligible.
    I will grant that a 22lr is not the same as a 38 special or 9mm if nothing else due to the bang and recoil involved. Time with the larger cartridge would be valuable as well. You need to be familiar with the gun you will use.

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    Lead at $1 lb, 125 gr bullets =18 lbs per 1000. $18. Red Dot powder 8 lbs for $145=$18 lb. 3 gr load= 100 rds =$6. Primers 5k for $120 inc shipping = $24 per K. total is $48 per 1000 rds shot. Yes you have time, lube and tooling. You also have a product with recoil, noise and a lot more uses than 22 lr. You can also drop to a 105 gr lee and cut lead costs down, round balls and surplus powder. if you scrounge lead your costs can be next to nothing.
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    Lead at $1.25 + shipping. 2.2 cents per.
    Bullseye Powder $148 + shipping or $170 + tax at the LGS. 1.2 cent per.
    Primers $155 per 5k. 3.1 cents per.
    Assume your brass is free. Assume your time and effort is worthless. Assume your Lube is made from stuff you didn't buy but had lying around.
    6.4 cents per shot. $64 dollars per thousand shots.
    Prices current at Midway except foe the lead.

    I don't know where you buy your supplies, but it doesn't reflect the costs that I have to pay. Plus I didn't add in the shipping costs or tax in my calculations so the actual costs would be higher.

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