Tex,
I've been to some wedding receptions that got a bit wild, but not that wild.
You are right about the 9.3x62's well established record and versatility; but, while the 9, 9.3, and 9.5x57s are a bit more specialized for more modest ranges and less dangerous game, they are still quite good rounds in some awfully nice old rifles.
Landy
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You're welcome.Originally Posted by Traffer
I guess that I should elaborate that it's mild enough not to be out of place for the deer, either. So very often 57mms is enough while, yet, very seldom too much.
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Landy88,
Jennifer (Roy's, then 20YO, daughter, who was home from college at that time) opined, "Daddy you really didn't have to shoot her. 'Mrs. White Bear' just wanted to attend the bridal shower."
(Then she LOL, as Jennifer is AK-born/raised. = Nothing much fazes her.)
Btw, I fully agree that the 9x57 & 9.3x57mm are OFTEN chambered in FINE quality rifles & that are sometimes for sale at LOW prices here in the USA. Nonetheless, I seriously doubt that I'll buy either for 2 reasons:
1. Left-hand European rifles are SCARCE & if available at all are $$$$$$.
and
2. I already have the circa 1968 Remington Model 760 in 9.3x62mm that JES remodeled for me. - I can load the 760 to be suitable for anything from TX jackrabbits & up.
(The 250 grain PBCB at about 1200-1400FPS is A KILLER on "medium game" & WILL kill WT too. = That big hunk of lead generally passes through the body of an animal, from any angle exits the body, leaving LITTLE edible meat "bloodshot" and/or the pelt much damaged. = A pair of .368 caliber holes are EASY to sew back up.)
Incidentally, I'm told that the market hunters of Northern Europe use a relatively mild load to take MOOSE & other Northern game for sale in the meat markets & in many fine restaurants.
(Blood-shot meat doesn't sell well & since the quarry is shot at close range, after being cornered by hounds, a properly placed mild load accomplishes that task well.)
yours, tex
Welp, I think I have all my ducks in a row. I should be able to get the rifle and the reloading supplies within the month. I have definitely settled on the 9.3x57mm. I'm working on getting a list of possible reloading recipes, and I'll probably order some Hornady dies and a box of 285gr Prvi Partizan SPs just to get my foot in the door (will give me a chance to shoot the gun and do a chamber cast before I invest in the stuff to neck turn and cast bullets for it). This just might be my deer rifle for this year.
I've always admired Alaskans for their refusal to let anything useful go to waste.
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Aaron
Oh, I was going to ask. I have heard that 358 Winchester data can be used in 9.3x57 due to their similarities, and that the 358 data would result in slightly lower pressures in the 9.3 due to it's increased bullet diameter. Assuming I work up the loads and chrony them (as you should do), would this be a recommended thing to do? If so, that would give me more options, at least up to 250gr.
H4895 seems to be the go to powder from what I can find.
PriviPartisan 285gr. RN's - 45.0gr. H4895 - 2,200fps
293gr. TUG's - 45.0gr. H4895
270gr. Speer SemiRN - 48.0gr. H4895 - 3.045" OAL - 2,268fps
Last edited by am44mag; 05-15-2018 at 01:02 AM.
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Aaron
If you desire to shoot cast bullets in the 9.3x57 definitely slug the barrel. Don't have the numbers handy on mine but the throat is .370, bore was .368 and top of the lands was .356 which means the lands are .006 high. For jacketed bullets might be no problem but would need at least a .370 cast bullet. Frank
If you are shooting a 9.3cal,,you can also try using 9mmMakarov pistol bullets over a small load of fast burners like Bullseye, RedDot or Unique for a Gallery load. The 9mmMakarov bullet is .365/.366d
I use the 95gr JHP Hornady in my 9.3x74R for a fun load. Very accurate out at 50M and enjoyable to shoot even for the kids.
I use RedDot in that load.
A cast number for them would be neat too.
I'm sure some of the rifles in these calibers have over or under size bores, so the proposition may not always work well, but it has in many instances.
am44mag,
Sounds like an excellent plan to me. = Best wishes on using your "new to you" rifle.
yours, tex
Humm, have 9.3x57 Husky bought last year that is very accurate with the Privi bullets while fireforming 8x57 brass, have had for years 9mmMak mold that I have used in the Mak and CZ82. Maybe I need to think about a marriage, or at least an arrangement between them.
Wayne the Shrink
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i luv this thread!!! i'm thinking about buying a husky model 46 in 9.3x57 from simpsons.
am, find a good one and I can't believe you won't be tickled to death. I don't remember my exact loads but the ones you list are hotter than what I use. Not by a lot. If possible I use the most mild load that will shoot accurately and to the sights but, that's just one man's practice.
For you guys who necked up 8 X 57 brass, are you able to shoot cast without turning the necks? I have wondered about that but have yet to try it, thinking the neck might get thin enough just from necking it up? Sure would save a lot of work!
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Sorry, haven't cast with that mold yet.
Wayne the Shrink
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Mine is still slightly too tight for cast at the neck even with necked up 8x57. Cutting either the chamber or the brass seems inescapable with many of these early Husqies.
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Thank you Landy. Your response has been my experience. Would a fella have to have a reamer ground to open the throat? I dabble with my lathe but real machine work gets outta my pay grade pretty quick!
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And cutting on rifles is mostly beyond my pay grade.
I'll stick to thinning the brass - RCBS, for one, has mandrels for their hand neck turner.
The first purpose of the Second Amendment is too often overlooked, fostering a liberty of mind and action necessary in the people of a free republic.
“Ironically, the only gun control in 19th century England was the policy forbidding police to have arms while on duty.”
~ Don B. Kates, Jr.
It is a big stretch but necking up 7x57 might be worth a try for thinner necks.
The first purpose of the Second Amendment is too often overlooked, fostering a liberty of mind and action necessary in the people of a free republic.
“Ironically, the only gun control in 19th century England was the policy forbidding police to have arms while on duty.”
~ Don B. Kates, Jr.
If I come across some, I'll have to try that.
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Aaron
I also wondered about 7 X 57 but all I have is 7 X 57R....and I'm pretty stingy with it. Never know when that nice kiplauf in 7 x 57R is gonna show up somewhere.
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I once had a 9.3 x 72R drilling come thru the shop. That was a cool experience working on it!
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That's quite a bit different and a bit older cartridge. 'Course, it's still being loaded today and works as good as it ever did. I have an old German single shot built on a Jones underlever in 9.3 x 62R which is based off the 9.3 X 72R and it's been a dandy rifle/cartridge combination.
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