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Thread: Marlin 336 35 Rem micro groove and Lyman 358430

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    Boolit Master
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    Marlin 336 35 Rem micro groove and Lyman 358430

    Anyone shooting this combination and getting accuracy? This is a non gas check 195 blunt boolit. I am considering adding this rifle to my collection and have this mold. Thanks ahead of time.

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    Can't say a thing about the mold, but I sure do like the rifle.
    I picked one up late last year and used it to take a couple of does.
    First doe was my first head shot. Hit her about 1" behind and below the right ear.
    It broke (or separated) every bone in her neck.
    I hit the second doe with a chest shot about 3 seconds after dropping the first.

    I just love the utility of a lever action rifle.

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    +1 on the cartridge. Very effective. I use the RCBS 35-200-FN, but your's should be very good as well..

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    Years ago I used to load the 150 version of the 358430 boolit for my 336 35 Remington as a plinking load. Range was about 50 yards and I recall that the accuracy was pretty good. They fed through the magazine just fine.
    Chuck

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    Microgroove users generally use a slightly harder fatter bullet to get good accuracy. As the bullet in not gas checked you might not have much hassle at lower velocities. Lee even makes a gas checked mold similar to the RCBS.

    DP

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    There are just two downsides to the wonderful 35 Rem cartridge: first is that it has almost NO throat in a normally chambered gun. And second is the little short neck. So the first downside means probably your boolit will be real hard to chamber if you crimp at the crimp groove and you'll find that you need to seat so the top driving band is just barely exposed. And second downside means this leaves the bottom grease groove down in the powder and you have no crimp to amount to anything.

    These downsides haven't kept me from shooting a fair number of revolver-friendly casties out of my 35 Rem but they did ultimately cause me to settle on the 200 grain boolit designed specifically for 35 Rem that Lyman, Lee, and RCBS all make moulds for. I have the Lyman but it no longer gets used since I got the wonderful 6-cavity Lee (which appears to be a direct copy of the RCBS version).

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    Yes I have used that boolit in 35 rem. I used Unique, but not in front of my data right this moment. I tested it out to 60 yds with iron sights and it stayed under an inch. I think I got the load data from an old lyman book. Seven to eight grains if my memory serves me correct, but DO NOT use it until you check with a source you trust. In my gun it would chamber fine but in my brothers gun it had to be short seated in the case. I perfer the Lyman 204 round nose or the RCBS 200 FN. I load both the latter boolits from 1200 fps all the way to hunting velocities. Lee makes a two and six cavity clone of the RCBS style and it shoots good in both our guns. If I could only have one it would be the flat nose RCBS style.
    I have also used that bullet in 38 special and 357, but never had any great success past about 25 yds. Too heavy and not enough speed.
    Tony

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    OK fellas, thanks for the responses. All I needed to do was look at Lyman's first cast bullet hand booklet of 1973 to see a bunch of data using a 35 Rem. 336 as the test gun. Many powder choices with that exact bullet and their usual recommendation to keep cast bullet velocity below 1600 FPS in micro groove barrels. I see a unique load that gets into 1500 FPS and that looks like just what I am looking for. My plan is hard cast wheel weights water dropped (20 BHN) and not sized if they will chamber. Again, I have the mold and now just need the gun to go with the mold. I think I have about 10 35 Remington cases. If I get the gun, that will be the next quest is to procure properly headstamp 35 Remington cases.

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    Go ahead and find the cases NOW! They did a run on them several months ago and I suspect that when those are gone it will be awhile before they do another run. May already be too late.
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    I have 4 35Rems, Rem 14-141-8 and a 336 Maurader. I shoot 200 Jrn in all of them. I only use them for Deer hunting. The pointed 35 cal bullets don't do well in any of the. None are scoped
    all have peeps. I've killed a mess of deer and about half were shot with 35s. I have a couple molds
    but never bothered to pour any yet.

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    So, are the new "Remlins" ballard cut or micro groove? Nice used ones are going for as much or more than new ones.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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