This is all good info guys thanks. I got some P willow in the ball mill right now. I'm going to get some alder and try it now since you dont have to season it. I didnt know about the sugar in the spring thing. I figured that if the wood isn't seasoned that that would contribute to it burning dirtier. Ive been using pine boards. When i play with the cc it really soots up my hands. This P willow i have the cc is alot cleaner not as much residue on my hands. I dont know if that means any thing but the pine is dirty. Im having alot of fun with making BP. and it works. I noticed with using pine i always get a short delay with my flint lock. I dust got a inline vortec pistol has the 209 ignition. I will see if the pine works with that. I have a couple pound of it to burn up. I just brought a Knight 54 rifle back to life that hasnt seen the light of day for 20+ years. I need to get a good boolit for it maybe a Lee REAL 380 All i have for it right now is round balls and it has a 1-28 twist. I dont want to shoot sabots.