nobody got skipped this bullet was designed over on the other site. so the group buy was started over there. it was talked about over here all anybody had to do was go over there and sign up. after it was already closed 2 dogs thought it was to good of a bullet and wanted to get it in more peoples hands so he started a group buy over here. 2 dogs is a great guy and is trying to get this bullet out there to people that have the passion for the 32 cal. that he does. this bullet design is worth waiting for. i hope i am not stepping on anybody's toes with this comment. i waited 3 or 4 years for this bullet's big brother the 314-640 lfn Sledgehammer. it all so was worth the wait.