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Thread: Hogs vs deer

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    Prodigal Son, That is SOME pig !!! I once saw some pigs coming toward me on a fence clearing. I had my Model 12 16 guage shotgun planning to shoot some crows. I leaned against a tree and aimed at a trail twenty feet away that had a deadfall across it.. A smaller boar got run off from the rest by a bigger boar and came under the deadfall tree. I didn't have to make much adjustment in the aim. The pig stopped as he saw something that didn't look just right. Aimed the load of #8 birdshot between the eye and ear and at the shot , a one inch hole appeared . DRT

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    Outer Rondacker,

    To quote NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC: "If you don't have hogs now, you will."

    The SOLE good thing about feral hogs is that the ones to about 100# field dressed are EXCELLENT when BBQed. = Those go on my pit whole & cook overnight.

    yours, tex

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    brewer12345,

    My Model 760 in .300 SAV works well on both with a 170 or 180 grain bullet. = Hogs are NOT armor-plated & they make excellent sausage & BBQed pork, too.

    NOTE: One of our TX Master Naturalists makes INVASIVE SPECIES CHILI, with half feral pork scraps & chunks of Axis Deer. = BEST that I've ever had.
    (Even our ladies, after a day in the field doing mammal surveys or reptile studies, go back for THIRDS.)
    Addenda: Use any good recipe for Texas Red Chili with pork/venison, instead of the beef.

    Served with sliced onions, tomatoes, homemade sourdough bread, cornbread muffins & iced tea, his chili makes a real FEAST.
    (Hardly anyone has room for the cake/pie/ice cream after a 3rd or 4th bowl.)

    yours, tex

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnative46 View Post
    brewer12345,

    My Model 760 in .300 SAV works well on both with a 170 or 180 grain bullet. = Hogs are NOT armor-plated & they make excellent sausage & BBQed pork, too.

    NOTE: One of our TX Master Naturalists makes INVASIVE SPECIES CHILI, with half feral pork scraps & chunks of Axis Deer. = BEST that I've ever had.
    (Even our ladies, after a day in the field doing mammal surveys or reptile studies, go back for THIRDS.)
    Addenda: Use any good recipe for Texas Red Chili with pork/venison, instead of the beef.

    Served with sliced onions, tomatoes, homemade sourdough bread, cornbread muffins & iced tea, his chili makes a real FEAST.
    (Hardly anyone has room for the cake/pie/ice cream after a 3rd or 4th bowl.)

    yours, tex
    Initially I wondered why anyone would water down Axis. Hmmmm... Maybe.

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    rodwha,

    IMO, there is NO "maybe". = I just get my bowl & get into the chili line, then go get cornbread muffins & iced tea.
    (Carlos M_________ says that he's had equally good luck in making his chili, using NILGAI & feral pork.)

    Since you are TEXICAN, may I invite you to join the volunteer "crazies" called TEXAS MASTER NATURALISTS??
    (Recently, a VERY senior manager at TP&WD HQ said, "Those people are 'nuts'. It seems like every time that something that really needs doing but which 'the experts' say cannot be done, the TMN 'bow their collective necks' & just go do it. It seems that 'grit' & the collective effort of a bunch of determined volunteers really does solve 'insolvable' problems.")

    Note to All: There are now Master Naturalists in about 30 US States & 6 other nations now. - Our forum members may want to check to see if our groups have invaded your State/Country.
    We do a wide variety of CONSERVATION, RESTORATION, PRESERVATION & EDUCATION projects to benefit our communities.

    yours, tex
    Last edited by texasnative46; 05-16-2018 at 07:59 AM. Reason: grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnative46 View Post
    rodwha,

    IMO, there is NO "maybe". = I just get my bowl & get into the chili line, then go get cornbread muffins & iced tea.
    (Carlos M_________ says that he's had equally good luck in making his chili, using NILGAI & feral pork.)

    Since you are TEXICAN, may I invite you to join the volunteer "crazies" called TEXAS MASTER NATURALISTS??
    (Recently, a VERY senior manager at TP&WD HQ said, "Those people are 'nuts'. It seems like every time that something that really needs doing but which 'the experts' say cannot be done, the TMN 'bow their collective necks' & just go do it. It seems that 'grit' & the collective effort of a bunch of determined volunteers really does solve 'insolvable' problems.")

    Note to All: There are now Master Naturalists in about 30 US States & 6 other nations now. - Our forum members may want to check to see if our groups have invaded your State/Country.
    We do a wide variety of CONSERVATION, RESTORATION, PRESERVATION & EDUCATION projects to benefit our communities.

    yours, tex
    Had to look that up. We spend a lot of time backpacking in state parks. Is this something a 9 year old could get involved with? I love taking the time to show her nature and explaining what I know or Googling it for info.

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    rodwha,

    While a 9YO could certainly help an adult (who is a MN), I cannot see one being able to complete the TMN training, UNLESS they were eligible for MENSA & maybe not even then. = I have 2 graduate degrees, 3 decades as a LEO & found the classwork/homework to be "challenging" at BEST.
    (Most of my TMN class had earned doctoral degrees or were experienced engineers/IT pros/etc.)

    I suggest that if YOU are dedicated to "wearing the green badge" that you go get trained. - I completed my class & graduated, "green". = Then take your sapling along.

    yours, tex

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    Wow! So this is quite intensive. And for volunteer work???

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    Sounds like an interesting and worthwhile organization. Wish I had a more regular work schedule. As it is currently, I doubt I would do anything except frustrate everyone.
    I passed my last psych eval, how bout you?

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    rodwha,

    The 1st day of class when everyone started giving their professional backgrounds, this "ole hillbilly boy" said to himself, "What the H am I doing here??"
    But I did graduate!!

    YEP, we are all volunteers for any number of important conservation, restoration, preservation & education projects all over TX & in a lot of other places.
    (A piece of advice: Do NOT let them talk you into a day with the S.A.L.S.A. team. = 2 of us older TMN went out for a Saturday with that bunch of "crazies" to remove over 130 chinaberry trees from a State natural area. I was foolish enough to try to keep up with the USN guys in their 20s & 30s. BIG MISTAKE.===> I hurt all over, in places that I didn't know that I had places, for days.)

    yours, tex
    Last edited by texasnative46; 05-17-2018 at 11:55 PM. Reason: typo

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    Lonegun1984,

    Your employer might very well give you "time off" to go to class. - You will find out, if you ask around, that TMN are "pretty well thought of" by a lot of folks.

    Our class was 6 hours, 1 day a week, for 10 weeks plus 48 hours of field work to graduate.
    A complete & acceptable result of a background investigation by TX DPS is also required.
    Tuition was 200.oo.

    yours, tex
    Last edited by texasnative46; 05-18-2018 at 12:07 AM. Reason: add

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    Texasnative,
    If it’s one day a week, that’s definitely doable. I was thinking several weeks of training all day every day til finished. See, this is what happens when I start thinking.

    I’m not worried about the background check. Work does one on me every year anyway, so that’s the easiest part of this.
    I passed my last psych eval, how bout you?

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    Lonegun1984,

    Understood.

    I find it "interesting" that certain people, who after being informed of the need for an acceptable background & DPS investigation, still try to get by it, when they have "a record".

    yours, tex

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    Any of them will work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harter66 View Post
    I've seen up to a 170# hog dropped at 2-50 yd with an 1100 fps 45 Colts with a 452-255 RNFP and 454424 .
    I saw one @140# shot head on with an 1800 fps 250 gr 35 Remington hit about mid snout scrambled brains and the bullet in the back strap just behind the shoulder .
    Shot one with a 257 Roberts jacketed head down spine surgery ....... Blood shot armpits ........

    Given the choice of the 2 I'd say use the 35 Remington .
    Any quartering shot that will go through the lower chest in or out or the described neck shot will do nicely .

    In a dozen or so hogs I've shot or been immediate party to only 2 ran , 1 was already running at the shot . The other is really anybody's guess . It was a 300 WSM my suspicion is bullet failure due to poor placement and poor bullet choice .

    The wallow is where the armoured pigs get the armour rap from when they get wet then get the clay mud all over , then it's like trying to shoot through an inch of dirt to get to the hide , fast and small blows up while slow and fat wrecks stuff .
    I'll have you know that I paid $200 @ $1 per lb for that "140 lb" pig. Lol But the 35 rem did do the trick.
    When you find out where Prodigal Son found that pig I am going to come visit your new home.

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