RCBS 35-200-FN, how fast for deer?

[BigMagShooter]

the buck was full of adrenaline. it don't matter if you use a 460 weatherby mag, its gonna run. my son shot a 5pt that was trailing a doe. he ran about 130-140 yards before my son caught up to him. the buck was still breathing so my son "throat cut" him. it is difficult to take the knife and put it up against his throat(deer hair is strong). so you are better off to "throat cut" him. take the knife and plunge it into the neck(about the spine) and cut it to the outside of the deer.(a reverse "Colombian" neck-tie)

since i've been using cast boolits, about 7 or 8 years, every deer has been drt. jacketed bullets was 50% drt/50% run about 40+/- or so yards.

that's why you need a bayonet for your rifle.

[Texas by God]

Load your bullets somewhere around 2000 and go kill anything in North America.

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[Three44s]

Load your bullets somewhere around 2000 and go kill anything in North America.

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+10!

Three44s

[44 flattop]

1912 fps from my 11 1/2" T/C was my go-to for big high country bucks for a couple decades. H322 and the same bullet you're using, about 212 grs for me, gave 100 yard groups of about 1.5". Killed a few nice bull elk with this load/gun with one round over the years, too. Just bought a new scope to try on it a few months ago.

[Larry Gibson]

Bhn 12 alloys that approximate wheelweights will show some amount of upset down to around 1350 fps impact velocity.

The correct answer is the fastest you can push it with sufficient accuracy at the longest range you will use it. That opinion changed the more powders I shot. Many will serve.

I rather favor quicker kills and more tissue damage myself and velocity sees to that.

Temper accuracy expectations after a realistic appraisal of actual rifle potential. That usually involves discounting much of what you read on the internet.

Very well put, concur 100%.

As to the 35-200-FN I use it in the 35 Remington in a bolt gun (M91 Argie with Shilen barrel) and it certainly works for me. I push it at 2150 fps. I use softer alloy and expect expansion to 250 yards though with the sights I use on the rifle I have set 200 yards as a practical maximum.

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[Beerd]

Larry,
don't you think it's time to update your pictures of that particular bullet/cartridge/rifle combination?
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[Larry Gibson]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it......lol.....

[PS Paul]

You've dissed the master. Give yourself MANY lashes and don't stop until you're repentant!!!!

[white eagle]

mama always said "if you do it rite the first time"......
its always hard to top success

[bluejay75]

That photo makes me think of the song...”Should Have Seen it in Color”

[maglvr]

"RCBS 35-200-FN, how fast for deer?"
750 fps at the deer, more than enough.

[Tripplebeards]

My cast boolit load books show max loads at 1600-1700 fps for a 200 gr boolit. any suggestions on where to find 2000-2200fps load data?

[Larry Gibson]

My cast boolit load books show max loads at 1600-1700 fps for a 200 gr boolit. any suggestions on where to find 2000-2200fps load data?

From Lyman #48 Manual for 200 gr Jacketed. Pressures will be a tudge lower with cast. These are safe loads as per SAAMI in deference to the old semi auto 35 Rem rifles. I load in a Mauser bolt action so can load higher. M336 Marlins also can also be loaded to 30-30 SAAMI pressures. Not near my own measured psi data so can't advise further at this time.

Starting Velocity Pressure Powder Grains fps C.U.P. Max Load Velocity Pressure Grains fps C.U.P.
N133 31.0 1803 27,400 35.0 2060 34,600

XMR-2015 31.0 1780 28,500 35.0 2007 34,600

RX7 28.0 1860 31,000 31.0 1990 34,800

IMR-3031 33.0 1730 27,900 37.0 2029 35,000

H-4895 34.0 1740 27,600 38.5 2035 34,500

748 37.0 1875 31,000 41.0 2041 34,600

IMR4064 34.0 1652 26,300 38.5 1947 34,700

Varget 36.0 1810 29,400 40.0 2031 34,700

[Tripplebeards]

Thanks Larry!

[Texas by God]

I got great accuracy at 2000 fps using IMR 3031 in a
358 Win on the first try.

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[Camba]

What was your load?

[GLynn41]

I have the Lee version of the bullet-- and so far starting load + half a grain of H322 has been just fine-- just started using this boolit

[Cary Gunn]

Larry,

Do you use the hollow-point bullet on deer, or does the bullet's standard meplat provide enough thump without the hole-in-the-nose?

Just bein' nosey, if you'll pardon my pickin'.

Happy trails,

-- Cary Gunn --

[Tripplebeards]

He's a full fledged hollow pointer! Can't wait to get my group buy mold into production one of these days. I going to try it in my whelen as well as my remys

[Texas by God]

What was your load?

38grs of IMR 3031/CCI lr/ RCBS 35-200 coww average 217 gr. I was amazed at the accuracy with no fuss. Sized .358" in a 3 groove JES m700 Rem.358 Win.