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Thread: Jacketed Performance with Cast Bullets

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    So, Veral Smith has a new version of his book, "Jacketed Performance With Cast Bullets"? Reading all of this made me get my Copyright 1984, Third edition, printed July 1990 out for a reread since it has been awhile. So, has Veral added enough good information worth ordering a new one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonMountain View Post
    So, Veral Smith has a new version of his book, "Jacketed Performance With Cast Bullets"? Reading all of this made me get my Copyright 1984, Third edition, printed July 1990 out for a reread since it has been awhile. So, has Veral added enough good information worth ordering a new one?
    I've had some email correspondence with Veral, he has indicated that the 4th edition will be "much larger". I know he's trying to return the payments of people (like myself) who ordered the 3rd edition and have us re-order when the 4th is ready.

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    Hope you get your book soon I've had mine for 20 years now and keep referring back to it. A few days back someone on this site had a question about bullet hardening over time and I replied to him what Mr. Smith had in his book on this very subject. I also learned a lot about the effect of WFN (wide flat nosed) bullets as to tissue destruction in flesh from this book. One word of advise when you get it, don't loan to a friend. Let the friend sit on your porch and read it instead of taking it to his house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHuij View Post
    Okay... so we're up to well over a month now. Veral Smith may be a genius mold maker, bullet caster, and alloy specialist. But I am not impressed with his ordering system or his responsiveness. I realize $31 isn't a whole lot of money to get upset about, but just taking my money and ignoring me is really a low thing to do. He has my email address, it's on the order form. He could at least drop a line saying "yep, got your payment, I'll get around to mailing your book out sometime."
    Did you check to see if he cashed the check?

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    Well lo and behold, my book arrived in the mail on Wednesday. Information in there was fantastic. I appear to have received the 3rd edition.

    I don't know that I'll be ordering any of his molds; 9+ months is longer of a shipping time than I'm willing to wait. But I'm glad the book arrived and I will definitely be referring to it frequently.
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    Well thats good news. I am glad you finally got the book. I am seriously contemplating ordering it. I really want to read it.

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    I have two copies of the 3rd edition. I bought the second when he was in prison and it was announced on the old CB-L list that his wife was having financial difficulties and had several copies of the book she needed to sell. IIRC I sent enough for the book and an equal amount for a donation.

    I would have to think about buying a 4th edition. Not sure any extra information over and above the 3rd would benefit me at this stage of my life.
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    Is this 4th edition a sure thing? I don't own any of his books, but emailed about a month ago after reading this thread. Still no response.

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    I have been watching this thread for awhile now. This has been my experience. I emailed Mr. Smith a short email asking about availability of the lead hardness testers. Within a couple days I got a response that he had them available. August 21 2018 I purchased a USPS money order for 110.00 and sent it out the same day. September 21 I paid the post office 5.95 to run a check on the money order. The online check service for USPS service provide no information about money orders. My post office would not check status of money order until 30 days after purchase. Again cost of 5.95 to perform the check. About a week later I received a single page response from post office, it contained a front and back Xerox copy of the money order I sent. Extremely poor copy I might add. It showed Mr. Smith's signature, and absolutely nothing else. No dates, no location, just his possible endorsement. So just keep that in mind for future decisions on sending money to strangers. Anyways I received a package from Mr. Smith on 14 October 2018. I have not opened it yet. I would expect there is probably a invoice in there with a hand written note apologizing for the delay based upon that is how things probably were when he grew up. Or that's what I would do if ever found to be in similar situation. I never bothered the guy with follow up emails. Not sure if I would have. That's been my personal experience. I undoubtedly believe he was an absolute master at what he does and knows but...

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    Every time I've ordered a mold from Veral, I have the mold(s) in hand well before the check is deposited. Some times it's a few weeks, some times a few months. I don't bother him, I just wait for my order to show up. And it always has. I have at least a dozen LBT molds, probably closer to 20.
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    I have a bullet hardness tester and one 440 grain mold for a 45/70 from Veral, both pieces very nice quality.
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