MidSouth Shooters SupplyLee PrecisionTitan ReloadingRotoMetals2
ADvertise hereGraf & SonsStainLess Steel MediaInline Fabrication

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 34

Thread: .25acp Beretta Model question

  1. #1
    Boolit Master
    georgerkahn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    South of the (Canada) border
    Posts
    691

    .25acp Beretta Model question

    I went to a gunshow this morning where a .25acp Beretta pistol found a new (me ) owner. Here'a my question, which may be important when I register it next week: Seller lists it as a "Model 1939 Beretta semi-auto 2" barrel" on receipt. I, upon getting home, Googled "model 1939" to read about my new treasure -- finding ZERO reference to it. Going "back-wards", it appears I may have a Model 418 with a 2 1/2" barrel??? It has similar markings to thew Model 1934 vis made in Gardone, Kingdom of Italy, etc. On the slide and frame (starboard side) is imprinted its serial number, in the six hundred thousand range -- again, making me think it's a Model 418 from the 1930s??
    I'm hoping someone on this site either may have knowledge of Beretta 25acp's -- possibly even owning one, and may help me out.
    Thank you in advance!
    geo

  2. #2
    Boolit Master Outpost75's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    over the hill, out in the woods and far away
    Posts
    5,708
    Photos would sure help!
    The ENEMY is listening.
    HE wants to know what YOU know.
    Keep it to yourself.

  3. #3
    Boolit Master
    georgerkahn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    South of the (Canada) border
    Posts
    691
    Photos indeed would help -- but, I cannot pick up pistol til I get it registered; never gave it a thought re possible model # snafu, or I could have snapped a few pix with my iPhone. The seller & pistol are now >130 miles away... Sorry.
    geo

  4. #4
    Boolit Master Outpost75's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    over the hill, out in the woods and far away
    Posts
    5,708
    Does it look like THIS? 418 is a solid little gun.

    Attachment 216230
    The ENEMY is listening.
    HE wants to know what YOU know.
    Keep it to yourself.

  5. #5
    Boolit Master eljefe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Baltimore, Maryland, USA
    Posts
    189
    Bluebook of gun values indicates that it may be a model 318, based on the
    serial number range. The 418 is "similar to Model 318, but with loaded chamber indicator and grip safety (early type is semi-circular, late type is curved)," copied from bluebook. The 318 was also
    manufactured in the 1930s which might explain why the seller called it a
    model of 1939. I hope this helps.

  6. #6
    Boolit Master
    georgerkahn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    South of the (Canada) border
    Posts
    691
    OUTPOST75 -- Yes, indeed, it looks almost like your photo, except I think the number is 1936, as opposed to the 1941 on yours. The serial number -- 629,xxx appears both on the frame, as well as slide, on starboard ("right") side of my new purchase.
    eljefe -- I'm about to Google the "418"... may be lucky?

    To both -- thanks -- with fresh snow on ground, I imagine seller has had/is having a challenge returning to his home. The more I think on it, I may telephone him tomorrow and hopefully get my concerns that I may register this pistol on my permit with serial number -- and nothing else -- correct. Does anyone know if Beretta made a .25acp with an even two-inch barrel?

    Thanks!
    geo
    Last edited by georgerkahn; 03-11-2018 at 08:05 PM.

  7. #7
    Boolit Master eljefe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Baltimore, Maryland, USA
    Posts
    189
    I was doing a little more reading and think it is a 418.
    It sure is a cool little gun. On another site, a poster
    indicated that he got a factory letter from beretta calling
    his a 418. It has an earlier serial number than your gun.

  8. #8
    Boolit Master
    georgerkahn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    South of the (Canada) border
    Posts
    691
    eljefe -- thanks again! Yes, the seller bought "a bunch" of firearms from an elderly gent who is moving down south to enjoy his retirement away from snow and cold, and elected to convert some (or all?) of his firearms into cash. He told seller this pistol came to America after the war on a 194? Liberty Ship, in the the sea-bag of his great uncle. That's all the "history" known, but imho this surely adds to its "neatness"! The leather holster is in amazingly great shape -- just a tad dry, which Neats-foot oil will hopefully remedy -- for its age as well. I've never been a fan of "widow-makers"/.25acp pocket pistols -- but for this gem I'm happy to have changed my thinking .
    geo

  9. #9
    Boolit Master Outpost75's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    over the hill, out in the woods and far away
    Posts
    5,708
    The Beretta pistols of that era are well engineered, simple, well made and reliable. I have several M1934 and M1935s in 9mm Corto (.380 ACP) and 7.65mm Browning (.32 ACP) which are sturdy, reliable and accurate, having fewer parts than a Colt M1911.
    The ENEMY is listening.
    HE wants to know what YOU know.
    Keep it to yourself.

  10. #10
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    192
    @georgerkahn,

    Quote Originally Posted by georgerkahn View Post
    Photos indeed would help -- but, I cannot pick up pistol til I get it registered; never gave it a thought re possible model # snafu, or I could have snapped a few pix with my iPhone. The seller & pistol are now >130 miles away... Sorry.
    geo
    What are you talking about when you say "get it registered"? What purpose could there be for gun registration other than eventual confiscation?

    Otherwise, welcome to the 25 ACP family!

    Marshall

  11. #11
    Boolit Master
    georgerkahn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    South of the (Canada) border
    Posts
    691
    Marshall -- While I pray there is no credence to your query vis registration as perhaps a database for "eventual confiscation", it has more than become clear that firearms neither are always in the hands of responsible persons, nor are immune from both being stolen and used for not-so-good things, ranging from intimidation to theft to even murders. Along the time-line of this wonderful country, folks WE (actually, our forefathers) elected put laws in to effect to track the whereabouts of them. Similar to the registration of motor vehicles. And, as vehicle registration enables return/notification/identity of recorded owner, similar is for -- in my state -- handguns. I was quite surprised way back in the early 1970's when I learned the .45 revolver I had just purchased was someone elses' which had been stolen. (Sadly, I got but a receipt and lost the revolver as well as $$$ I gave for it) There is "more purpose" than your suggested one -- which I believe most all pray will NOT happen in the foreseeable future.
    geo

  12. #12
    Boolit Master Dan Cash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Western North Dakota
    Posts
    2,756
    George, I am so sorry for you; your compass is off several degrees.
    To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, the trouble with many shooting experts is not that they're ignorant; its just that they know so much that isn't so.

  13. #13
    Boolit Master
    Chev. William's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Sun Valley, California
    Posts
    1,487
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Cash View Post
    George, I am so sorry for you; your compass is off several degrees.
    "Variation" and "deviation" is what the Compass error is called in Aviation and Marine circles.
    Chuckling,
    Chev. William

  14. #14
    Boolit Master Texas by God's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    4,646
    Mr Kahn lives in Upstate New York. He has to deal with a few more regs than some of us.
    I love Beretta .25 autos- I'm constantly looking for a good deal on one! You got a nice one, George!

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

  15. #15
    Boolit Master Outpost75's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    over the hill, out in the woods and far away
    Posts
    5,708
    Upstate NY is different from the Big Apple, but gun owners still have to put up with regs passed by Albany.

    Pretty country once you get away from the city, but state politics are dominated by the big population centers, which is a shame.

    That's why I live in a Constitutional Carry state and live far out of town where I can shoot out of my windows...
    The ENEMY is listening.
    HE wants to know what YOU know.
    Keep it to yourself.

  16. #16
    Boolit Master Oklahoma Rebel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    outside of Sand Springs, N.E. OK
    Posts
    2,348
    I would love to have one in good ol 32 acp, I have always liked that caliber..... but for any other pistol calibers, go up about a tenth of an inch or more, lol. I shot a 25 acp once ( don't remember what kind) I DO remember being surprised at just how dang loud it was! good score on the gun, OP! have fun!-Travis
    An armed man in a citizen.
    An unarmed man is a subject.
    A disarmed man is a slave.

  17. #17
    Boolit Master
    georgerkahn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    South of the (Canada) border
    Posts
    691
    Thank you for your understanding, and kind words, Texas by God! Where I reside there have been NO CC pistol permits granted in over three years! One county judge actually boasts how gun owners need be the best citizens, as even for the teeniest of infractions -- their guns are gone! I'm not going to embellish re my thoughts vis registration, etc -- this thread was started by me solely in the hopes of getting a bit of info on what appears to be a great addition to my wee collection. I once had a 22lr tiny automatic -- ?Exsam? -- which was traded with no tears at a time I was rather short of funds for various reasons -- mostly, ill son -- and when I spied this at show, it cried out "buy me!" How could I refuse? Assuming I do not try to chop off part of a finger trying to reload this diminutive cartridge -- reloading the .25acp seems like a fun addition to shooting it!

    I wish to thank all who positively replied -- I'm of the notion that it is a Model 418 as opposed to the "1939" seller wrote on receipt. And, endeavoring to be a 101% honest, law-abiding chap, I will pay the $3.00 upon driving to the county seat and having my pistol permits amended to include this firearm. NO editorializing -- it's the way it is; no options here.

    Thanks again -- can't wait to get it in my hands and see if I can hit a barn wall at ten feet with bullets from it!
    geo

  18. #18
    Boolit Master

    Poygan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Fox River Valley
    Posts
    521
    You might find that it is surprisingly accurate for a small pistol.
    If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do, you are misinformed.
    - Mark Twain

    When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade without further introduction.
    - Mark Twain

  19. #19
    Boolit Master Texas by God's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    4,646
    Regarding .25 ACP accuracy I have head shot bowling pins with a Beretta Jetfire and head shot a squirrel with a Raven MP25 at twenty odd feet. I had a Galesi that would put its whole magazine in an inch @ ten feet. They are suprising little critters. You are welcome, George- keep us posted on the new "noseblower"- as we call the .25's!
    100% with you, Outpost.

  20. #20
    Boolit Master

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    578
    Does it have an extractor? Or put another way how does one get a chambered round out of it if desired to do so?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check