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Thread: School me on the .444

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    Congrats on adding a new Marlin to the he stable! I wish you and your dad would give me a chance on scoring a deal on a used gun around here. Between your last few Marlins and his deals on the Single Six and Mountie last year, I'm over due.

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    I haven't seen the 444 listed in Marlins catalog for the last 3-4 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dekeshooter View Post
    Congrats on adding a new Marlin to the he stable! I wish you and your dad would give me a chance on scoring a deal on a used gun around here. Between your last few Marlins and his deals on the Single Six and Mountie last year, I'm over due.
    Sorry man....I guess it's a genetic trait, the ability to sniff out deals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickory View Post
    I haven't seen the 444 listed in Marlins catalog for the last 3-4 months.
    There haven't been any .444's made since Remington took over ownership as far as I know

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    The upside is they can't mess up what they don't make.
    I give loading advice based on my actual results in factory rifles with standard chambers, twist rates and basic accurizing.
    My goals for using cast boolits are lots of good, cheap, and reasonably accurate shooting, while avoiding overly tedious loading processes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by three50seven View Post
    Thanks for all the info so far. This one is a 1:38 microgroove I believe. I would like to load something in the 240-280gr range, preferably cast. I have a 45/70 as well, so no sense in shooting heavy's in the 444.

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    I shoot Cowboy Lever Action silhouette with my 1969 Marlin 444.
    I load a 240gr. Berry's plated FP,Winchester LR primer,Starline brass with
    12.0 gr. of IMR 700X. It chronos at 1350fps, knocks over the 65lb steel ram target
    at 200yds. easily, and kicks like a .22lr. Reloading is a must, as 20 rounds of
    Hornady Leverlution ammo was $40.00+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by three50seven View Post
    There haven't been any .444's made since Remington took over ownership as far as I know

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    +1 on the upside

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballistics in Scotland View Post
    The .45-70 might sometimes be loaded to the same pressure as the .444.
    In a Marlin, the 45-70 can be loaded a bit hotter than the .444. In my 26" 1895CB I can push a 405gr bullet to 2100fps and it's not even a Max load. There are no .444 loads that can touch that energy.

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    Thanks again for all the information from those who posted here. Also, thank you to the members who responded to my WTB ad for dies and brass; thanks to them I was able to acquire a set of dies and a good supply of R-P and Hornady brass. I loaded up a few rounds Wednesday evening using Glen Fryxell's accuracy load of 52.0gr H322 under a 270gr. Speer Deep Curl. 5 quick off-hand shots at 25yds shows good potential, but I have to say they kicked like a mule!!!

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    Just something to be aware of, the Hornady Leverevolution brass is a mite shorter than other brands of brass. Not a problem, really, but for a consistent crimp you may want to keep them separated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scattershot View Post
    Just something to be aware of, the Hornady Leverevolution brass is a mite shorter than other brands of brass. Not a problem, really, but for a consistent crimp you may want to keep them separated.
    Yep, I ended up with 20 pieces of that in the lot of brass that I bought. I figure I will use it for some mild plinkers and just seat them a little long if need be.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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