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    USA 1 SHOT Pistol Brace

    THE coolest thing at the SHOT Show this year was this,,, Goto www.usa1shot.com

    This is a pistol brace that allows you to use your pistol like a Broom Handle Mauser!

    However your gun is not attached to it, it only provides a very tight pocket that allows you to retain the attachment to the gun with only your firing hand grip.

    It is a pistol brace which is similar in function, but does not work like the Sig Brace which is permanently attached to the gun.

    This thing turns your Glock or other pistol into a 100 yard carbine. The gun doesn't flop around while you are holding it in the pocket, each model fits the grip of it's gun "Perfectly!" it is rock steady!

    Since your gun is not mechanically attached either temporarily or permanently to the device, it is totally sanctified as completely legal by the ATF!

    I saw an earlier version of this at the show last year, but they hadn't gotten ATF approval yet and as such it was LEO and Military only. I actually tried to take pics so I could make one out of plywood for my own use.

    Now anyone can buy one, and I did! It will completely change the dynamic of my G35 with the Burris Fast-Fire Red Dot and my G23 with Night Sights, both of which will fit right in the pocket. Several versions currently available.

    I can't wait till later this week when it arrives. Here's a pic in the meantime.
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    Interesting innovation.
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    I can't believe more of you haven't shown interest in this device. This thing was by far the most innovative thing at the whole SHOT Show last week and I looked at everything in the building.

    They are getting 6" groups at 100 yards from a Glock 22 with a Red Dot Sight! They had a video playing that showed a guy making a 380 yard hit with a G20 with a Red Dot!

    This is Elmer Keith level shooting, but with normal guys who aren't even close to Elmer Keith.

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    I'm glad to hear it was at SHOT again. I have been watching their FB page but haven't found any for sale.

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    Been doing that with a crooked stick for years!

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    I've often wondered if it would be legal to build and use something like that.

    Wait a minute... that's not a buttstock; it's a wrist brace!

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    If it is not a "buttstock" as far as NFA is concerned, why do they have a pistol brace attached to it? Neat idea, one that I have considered many times for big bore revolvers.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.

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    Many years ago, folks were selling this same basic thing for 1911s. Your hand held the 'stock' to the pistol's grip, so that there was no permanent attachment, and the BATFE at that time (temporarily at least) stated that it was legal. I've been asking around if folks know if the BATFE has changed their mind on this - Well, apparently not. Not exactly super "innovative", but does look like an improvement on the earlier model.

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    I recall seeing a brace for pistol shooting that used either a glove or a wrist cuff on the shooter's hand, then a metal buttstock was attached to the glove and rested against the shooter's shoulder. This would have been in the late '60's or early '70's. Shooter held the gun normally, and nothing was attached to the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 376Steyr View Post
    I recall seeing a brace for pistol shooting that used either a glove or a wrist cuff on the shooter's hand, then a metal buttstock was attached to the glove and rested against the shooter's shoulder. This would have been in the late '60's or early '70's. Shooter held the gun normally, and nothing was attached to the gun.
    Deadeye Associates 1974. I had one briefly.

    They wanted you to mount a normal, high-magnification riflescope on your handgun, which made the handgun all but useless without the brace. Accuracy was worse with iron sights because the short LOP put your eye much too close to the rear sight for precise alignment.

    Might have been okay with red dot sights, if we'd had them then...

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    It does look pretty interesting. But I think that showing pictures of people using it like a buttstock may eventually get the ATF upset about it.

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    OK that's more like it!

    The ATF has already signed off on it and I will get a copy of the letter with the device. The operative point here is that it is "NOT" attached to the gun in any way. If you loosen your grip it falls away.

    It is a Buttstock with a relatively short LOP I will probably lengthen it a little. The ones I played with at the show shouldered nicely.

    I will give more impressions when I get the thing in hand, and can answer questions directly and accurately.

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    Ferg: I talked to the engineer who designed the thing yesterday for about 40 minutes. The Revolver Idea had been discussed, I asked about it, but the problem is that it transfers all the recoil directly to the device which in turn transfers it to your shoulder.

    In my case it would be a .44 Magnum SBH/Rifle that weighs 3-4 lbs. which wouldn't be all that pleasant to shoot. In addition there is no beavertail on a Revolver grip to control upward movement during recoil, so the gun would probably fall out of the brace with every shot. I don't see it working very well if at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W.R.Buchanan View Post
    The ATF has already signed off on it and I will get a copy of the letter with the device. The operative point here is that it is "NOT" attached to the gun in any way.
    Randy
    If it is not attached to the pistol why not an actual stock? Since it has a pistol brace, why not attach it to the gun?
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    Maybe the picture was made before they had the ATF letter, and they decided to play it safe with a brace instead of a stock?
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.

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    Yeah, wait till some clown becomes you tube famous touching off a big wheel gun with that thing.
    Got some cool factor but I don't see the purpose myself.
    Now if they made it as a walking stick that would collapse they might have somthing

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    just my opinion, but if im going to screw around with that thing, id rather just carry a short rifle with a 16" barrel.

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    I am sure that those wanting one will have their fun with it.

    In my case I am wondering where to stow the ungainly thing when it is not being used. A holster for it appears undesirable. My contrary side says if I really need the accuracy of a buttstock more than likely I carry a little carbine like a TC Contender, which has way more hit potential and inherent accuracy. If my purpose afield is to hit something at ranges where handguns become problematic I go to the real upgrade, not an almost equally burdensome half measure.

    Call me a Luddite, I guess. Ratcheting down the convenience factor to near carbine bulk means I pack a real carbine instead. Perhaps I speak for nobody but myself, but often I pack a handgun because the shooting afield is secondary. Or that I want the challenge of the actual hand gun. Running bank lines, trot lines or trap lines come to mind, or woods walking. And sometimes we do not have to hit but rather just see if our skill level lets us hit. That would be the plinking part and I love to plink with the difficult to master hand gun.

    This became a kind of explanation/rationale after all.

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    I saw that at SHOT. Interesting for sure,,, for folks who have guns of the models they offer. And,,, for folks who are a bit unsteady in handgunning,,, they can help.

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    Some things like this're more for use at the range / for just goofing off; Not sure if this'd be a thing to carry when hunting or hiking the Pacific Crest Trail really. But you CAN have fun in other contexts than hunting - It's allowed :P

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