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    Quote Originally Posted by Gewehr-Guy View Post
    OlDeuce, good luck with your project,the Fed Ex truck of happiness is bringing my 8mm roller today, and a 12.7x44R to cheapen the freight. My Simpson's addiction is very BAD!
    Somehow I never heard of this dealer, but those rollers sold out pretty quick at those prices. I'd like to have one of the 12X44s in centerfire.

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    OlDeuce you dog!
    Ya just had ta show off that roller huh. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS. I MEAN IT.
    I NOW HAVE A ROLLER SHIPPING OUT TOMORROW. I can't believe they had one that had not been sold.

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    Just from the site if the images are accurate.











    Have not yet decided what I shall do with this grand roller, I will ruminate a while......so many options. When I decide I will post the decision, and of course some images. Either way, it will be a cast boolit shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOA View Post
    OlDeuce you dog!
    Ya just had ta show off that roller huh. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS. I MEAN IT.
    I NOW HAVE A ROLLER SHIPPING OUT TOMORROW. I can't believe they had one that had not been sold.
    MOA.....Tehehe ....Isn't that cool I was over the moon when I saw the prices I couldn't believe what I was reading!!
    Before this ......LOL I was on Gunbrokers and was shopping the rolling blocks !! and those guys !!!! wow they were flipping rolling blocks !!

    I was really Pleased with Dave the salesperson that helped me !!!! Really Nice!! Ol' Happy Dog Deuce
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    Howdy Fellers
    I have a Swede 12.17X44 but It looks as tho some one run a 50-70 reamer into it , so I cut down a 50-90 to fit the chamber , got a 400 gr. 500 S&W bullet mold an sized & lubed it to .503, the barrel slugged at .501 ,loaded 62grs. of 2f Goex powder ,I then fired it an it worked so I cut down about 50 cartridges an loaded them an went to the range ,I fired 7 Shots after the fifth shot the group open up , so i let cool down shot 5 2" let it cool again fired 5 more 2" group so after that I only shot 5 Shots at a time , when winter came along I stripped the stock an refinished an put a Beechs front sight an veneer tang sight on it. It is a AXTELL TANG SIGHT
    Now it is for saleClick image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boz330 View Post
    Somehow I never heard of this dealer, but those rollers sold out pretty quick at those prices. I'd like to have one of the 12X44s in centerfire.

    Bob
    They aren't sold out. They have more, and get more almost every month. I looked this morning at "new arrivals" there, and there were many still available. Only issue I have is I'm not fond of the set screws used to hold the pins in, and the large bat wing spur on the breech blocks. They are great actions, but those items make them less desirable appearance wise for a rework to sporter configuration.

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    I check Simpson's fairly regularly and would like one in 12.7 X 44R but doggone it, someone must be sitting at their computer watching Simpson's waiting for a shipment to be posted. Every time I see a 12.7 on their site that is good it's already sold. As an aside they have been good folks to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharps4590 View Post
    I check Simpson's fairly regularly and would like one in 12.7 X 44R but doggone it, someone must be sitting at their computer watching Simpson's waiting for a shipment to be posted. Every time I see a 12.7 on their site that is good it's already sold. As an aside they have been good folks to deal with.
    Yep, if it is something you think you might like you better be quick on the phone. Really nice ones or unique ones are gone pretty much as soon as they are posted. They had a 28ga roller last week. It was a Husky model missing the firing pin. I spent a little time banging around the net to see if I could buy a firing pin or if the Rem brand would fit. Couldn't really find anything so said what the heck, for $195 I'll buy it anyway. Of course in the few minutes it took me to decide that, it as GONE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOA View Post
    Just from the site if the images are accurate.











    Have not yet decided what I shall do with this grand roller, I will ruminate a while......so many options. When I decide I will post the decision, and of course some images. Either way, it will be a cast boolit shooter.
    Excellent outward condition. This looks like a 50 year old rifle. The metal looks great.
    You can miss fast & you can miss a lot, but only hits count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOA View Post
    OlDeuce you dog!
    Ya just had ta show off that roller huh. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS. I MEAN IT.
    I NOW HAVE A ROLLER SHIPPING OUT TOMORROW. I can't believe they had one that had not been sold.
    Well MOA....... Did you get yours????? Had conformation today that mine should be delivered tomorrow !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlDeuce View Post
    .......This last weekend locating Stuff ! and Monday stepping over the line to pay for it all WoW ....
    I found a bought a 1876 Swedish Rolling Block, she was a 8mm which has to go!! So today a Green Mountain
    308 cal Octagon barrel was ordered. Last week I ordered a custom Dave Manson 308 Tapered 30-30 case !
    I've done alot of mind searching and I'm now really excited about all the parts and stuff coming!!!

    This is my Tapered 30WCF For what itis for a quick glance is a 32-40 but it isn't



    To get my ream it's a 6 to 8 week wait But thats Ok......

    Ol Deuce

    thats a neat case!!! someday(i wish) i would like to take a 30-40 krag case necked up and tapered to .410"(41 rem mag). my boolits will be 270-320gr fn gc and they will be going 1400-1500fps. i would like it to be a high wall(i wish again). but i haven't the time or funds to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlDeuce View Post
    Well MOA....... Did you get yours????? Had conformation today that mine should be delivered tomorrow !!!!

    Ol Deuce
    Not yet but soon.

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    EMC, for a second there I thought that was my rifle!!!! Then I made out the first number as a "1".

    Rusty, your experience echo's mine. I went to check their site a few minutes ago and at the moment it won't come up on my 'puter. Probably something there right now I want that will be gone.
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    Wait. WHAT?!?! You guys are running 8 X 58RD and 12x44's??? How??? Where do you get the brass...???

    Just to make sure I am understanding you fellas correctly - are we talking about rifles like these?

    https://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/66

    Any instruction is sincerely appreciated. (Yes I'd much rather shoot .30-30 tapered like Ol' Deuce!!! But pikers like me have to shoot what's available for the most part!)

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    Again, fairly large numbers of these rolling blocks came into Canada as surplus years ago, and they are still being brought in and are available through a large Canadian surplus distributor called "Tradex". They still have lots of these rolling blocks in 8x58R's and 12.7x44R's available for sale, so for any of my Canadian brothers who haven't bought one yet you can go have a look at their website and tempt yourself! (They also have lots of Husqvarna M96 bolt action sporters left in 9.3x57mm too.)

    https://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/66
    I may have passed my "Best Before" date, but I haven't reached my "Expiry" date!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy La Pourque View Post
    Wait. WHAT?!?! You guys are running 8 X 58RD and 12x44's??? How??? Where do you get the brass...???

    Just to make sure I am understanding you fellas correctly - are we talking about rifles like these?

    https://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/66

    Any instruction is sincerely appreciated. (Yes I'd much rather shoot .30-30 tapered like Ol' Deuce!!! But pikers like me have to shoot what's available for the most part!)
    Just sent you a PM ...
    I may have passed my "Best Before" date, but I haven't reached my "Expiry" date!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy La Pourque View Post

    Just to make sure I am understanding you fellas correctly - are we talking about rifles like these?

    https://www.tradeexcanada.com/produits/66
    Yep, that's what I'm shootin anyway. Lots of info on this site and others about the 8x58Rd and the 12.7X44R. Others have way more experience than I do and you should do a search for those threads.

    Although I guess it can be found, ammo is not readily available and reloading dies are expensive. For my 8mm I use PPU 8x56R brass and neck size and seat boolits with 8mm lebel dies. For the 12.7 I use starline 50/70 brass, very lightly modified to fit my chamber and use Lee 515 (sized .510) boolits and 50/70 reloading dies. Not endorsing either method, just what I use, YMMV.

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    Most of the 12.7x44R's will chamber .50-70 Govt brass (and a lot of them up here in Canada had a .50-70 Govt reamer run into the chamber to ensure that that brass will fit). Although 8x58R brass is available it is expensive. It can be reformed from 8x56R Hungarian or .45-70 although they come up a bit short on length after formed. They work just fine as "shooter" brass. I went one step further and bought a Kal Max Case Stretcher from Red River Rick so that I can lengthen .45-70 cases to .45-90 length for reforming to full length .40-82 WCF and 8x58R Danish Krag.
    I may have passed my "Best Before" date, but I haven't reached my "Expiry" date!

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    Sorry for the continuing dumb questions, fellas - but would that .30-30 wildcat in the OP be stoked with black powder...? I can see that gun being remarkably cheap and fun to shoot once it's put together...

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    Mine showed up this morning at 9:00 sharp !!! I'm a happy camper!!!!! this Rolling block shows no wear on the moving parts. the hammer face is Perfect!
    all the screw heads are perfect, and No Pitting on the frame ........She is going to be a Great Project!! The Bull Barrel will be in my hands on Wednesday !
    WoW I still have a month to wait before the Chamber Ream is finished!!! I'm Pumped!!! Oh ,,,,,,,The fun part to come .....Ready for this ......My 1867 Roller
    is going to be a Take down!!!! Hmmm........


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