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Thread: What the heck to do with a Lorcin .380

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    Keep it around for fun. When your gun snob buds ask you what you carry tell them a Lorcin, and watch them implode. A Taurus has the same result also, or a Hi Point.

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    Some readers might recall from the 1990s a lot of press play about "The Ring Of Fire" in Southern California. Give the term a Google search (ring of fire gunmakers) and have a look-see at the history involved. Short version--this was a group of companies that produced very similar pot metal self-loading handguns that sold at very low prices. It was these handguns that California's Handgun Safety Act was targeted to address, mostly through "drop-testing" and other safety rigamarole. These regs did not work--these low-end handguns passed the "safety tests" with flying colors.

    There were some shady, scandalous characters working at these companies. I have personally seen 4 examples of these ROF handguns seized as part of criminal investigations that were "sterile"--they left the factory minus any serial number or other labeling. I did not think that the management had direct involvement in this production, but the act of getting such items produced and out the back loading dock took at least a few VERY lackadaisical supervisors, at minimum. When you pay unskilled workers low-end wages, they will make up the slack in a number of bad ways.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    When I had a shop I found the .380's worked pretty good unlike the .25's which worked or did not work.

    Think they don't stand at 25 yards and let a novice shoot at you with one. Any firearm that can go bang for a magazine or more will save your butt.

    Some cannot afford better nor care about guns they just like keeping alive. When you live in a bad area and make min wage or less you will never get something better as food and shelter is your main goal.

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    I was checking out a pawn shop today and amazingly enough they had a Lorcin .380 marked at $150 for sale. I had no interest in getting it, as I have other better guns I prefer to carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FergusonTO35 View Post
    Lorcin, the herpes of firearms...
    That's funny right there!

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    Take it to one of the gun buy back programs.
    I remember seeing one locally a few years ago that was giving $100 Kroger gift cards.
    Hundred bucks worth of steaks & beer for a Lorcin? SOLD!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PS Paul View Post
    'Spose it's like a scooter and a fatty. All fun until your friends see you ridin' one!!!!
    I was reading this topic for the laughs I figured it would provide.. You Sir, just nailed it for the funniest post, IMO.
    LOLOLOLOL


    Thanks for the laff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9.3X62AL View Post
    Some readers might recall from the 1990s a lot of press play about "The Ring Of Fire" in Southern California. Give the term a Google search (ring of fire gunmakers) and have a look-see at the history involved. Short version--this was a group of companies that produced very similar pot metal self-loading handguns that sold at very low prices. It was these handguns that California's Handgun Safety Act was targeted to address, mostly through "drop-testing" and other safety rigamarole. These regs did not work--these low-end handguns passed the "safety tests" with flying colors.

    There were some shady, scandalous characters working at these companies. I have personally seen 4 examples of these ROF handguns seized as part of criminal investigations that were "sterile"--they left the factory minus any serial number or other labeling. I did not think that the management had direct involvement in this production, but the act of getting such items produced and out the back loading dock took at least a few VERY lackadaisical supervisors, at minimum. When you pay unskilled workers low-end wages, they will make up the slack in a number of bad ways.
    The Ring of Fire companies did more damage to RKBA than the Brady Bunch and Violence Policy Institute ever could hope to. Bruce Jennings, whose firm produced the .380 pistol at the center of the Brandon Maxfield lawsuit, is currently at Club Fed on a child porn conviction. Jim Waldorf was a longtime friend of his and the owner of Lorcin. He used to boast that his business strategy was to make guns so cheap and in massive quantities so that no one else could compete with him.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, .30 WCF, .45-70 Gov't.

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    Full agreement with ya, TO-35. I dislike these makers and their products intensely.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FergusonTO35 View Post
    The Ring of Fire companies did more damage to RKBA than the Brady Bunch and Violence Policy Institute ever could hope to. Bruce Jennings, whose firm produced the .380 pistol at the center of the Brandon Maxfield lawsuit, is currently at Club Fed on a child porn conviction. Jim Waldorf was a longtime friend of his and the owner of Lorcin. He used to boast that his business strategy was to make guns so cheap and in massive quantities so that no one else could compete with him.
    FUDD's damaged 2A, and they continue to. Guns inexpensive, and expensive do absolutely nothing, they are an inanimate tool/object. Every time a supposed 2A supporter attacks an inanimate object, or legal gun owners/carry they are the root of evil. The anti's love them, they encourage them, they bait them to turn on fellow gun owners.

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    I think I'd lock it in a vice, load it with a compressed load of Titewad, and pull the trigger with a very long string. Just for grins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkingwolf View Post
    FUDD's damaged 2A, and they continue to. Guns inexpensive, and expensive do absolutely nothing, they are an inanimate tool/object. Every time a supposed 2A supporter attacks an inanimate object, or legal gun owners/carry they are the root of evil. The anti's love them, they encourage them, they bait them to turn on fellow gun owners.
    Actually, I agree with you completely here. It was the scumbag people who ran the Ring of Fire gunmakers who were the problem, not the guns themselves. I like cheap firearms and have had quite a few of them over the years, including quite a few of ROF guns purchased used.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, .30 WCF, .45-70 Gov't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow ninja View Post
    Got a Lorcin SS .380 as part of an estate sale, now I just need to know what the heck to do with it. I have no use or need for it in my collection, and I'm afraid I'd get laughed out of the pawn shop if I took it in. What do you guys think?
    If I believed gun buy-backs weren't as mythical as unicorns [check the facts! They're only ever advertised as "having happened" after the fact!] then I'd say "Hang onto it & get more than it originally cost at the next buy-back!" But since those things are all just anti-liberty propaganda, I'd say give it away to someone you despise...

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    Dont forget armslist, if you want to sell it face to face.

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    Honestly a Lorcin is prime bait for a gun buyback program. If you can get lucky and find one that is giving $100-$150 for you are golden. Almost any other gun I would say had redeeming qualities of some sort, but Lorcin's don't even make good boat anchors....

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    You only need it to work ONE TIME for it to be priceless. As I said; if it works- keep it.

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    A Liberator is, too, a pretty poor pistol; but it is a pistol, and all that some once had.
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    Didn't a bunch of gun grabbers just have a nationally televised meeting, where the highest officials in this land plotted extra-judicial gun seizures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkingwolf View Post
    FUDD's damaged 2A, and they continue to. Guns inexpensive, and expensive do absolutely nothing, they are an inanimate tool/object. Every time a supposed 2A supporter attacks an inanimate object, or legal gun owners/carry they are the root of evil. The anti's love them, they encourage them, they bait them to turn on fellow gun owners.
    Those ROF pistols do NO ONE any favors. I am not attacking any inanimate object, but I have zero use for these pot-metal pieces of trash. There is no evil in calling junk JUNK.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    If it were mine, it would first be tested that it functions. Then it would hide in a car trunk coated with wax so it doesn’t rust. Or in a secluded place in the garage so you could get it fast if needed. Or hidden next to a favorite spot you sit or frequent in the House. Every floor of my 3 floors of my house have a gun on them. At the first opportunity to get rid of it, like others suggested, I would do it and replace in those spots a smith 10 or colt police positive special in 38. I have bought some of those guns in the $200 plus range and I can always count on them.

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    Hi-Point is an example of a gun that is dirt cheap and still works really well, the company has A+ customer service too. Even the snobby gun shops here keep them in stock.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, .30 WCF, .45-70 Gov't.

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