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    Newbie here need help with 300 grain cast .44

    Ok so I am new to reloading and have purchased some .44 hammer 300 gr cast boolits from Missouri I'm having trouble finding reasonable load data for h110 hogdon shows 18-19 gr but my nosler book shows 19-20.5 gr ? Both of these are with jacketed hollow points. I loaded several rounds with cci 350 primers and did it latter style from 19gr to 19.4 gr with a coal of 1.65 are these gonna be safe to shoot? I'm using a ruger super blackhawk hunter.
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    I can tell you those loads are safe in my Ruger SBH. Actually, I settled on a load a few grains higher for the accuracy. Another load that worked well for me is 15.7gr/2400 and standard primer. As always work your way up slowly.

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    Those loads will be fine.
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    The Ruger Super Blackhawks are in full-time beast mode. That is NOT a license to go hog-wild, but there is a margin of safety present with these big boat anchors that might be lacking in other makes and models. You will not get into much trouble sticking to established load data in your Ruger. As a general rule, jacketed bullets will create a bit higher pressure impulse with a given weight of power than will a cast-lead bullet of the same weight, all things being equal.

    I don't often use full-potential loadings in my 44 Magnums any more. Elmer Keith once wrote that "1200 FPS is all you need" with his SWC 44 caliber bullet design, a 240 grain #429421. This was said in the context of large game hunting. After 40+ years of magnum revolver shooting I am beginning to understand Mr. Keith's wisdom in that statement. FOR DARN SURE, that is as much as I want in a S&W Model 29 derivative. My Redhawk's heft soaks up a lot of recoil, so it or my Win 92 levergun get my full-tilt 44 Magnum loadings.

    I understand that mine is a "minority opinion" in these days of Casull and Linebaugh chamberings. That's OK. Much respect to the makers of such fine arms, and to the folks that can herd such beasts.
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    Thank you gentlemen.

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    I find it hard to enjoy much shooting at those levels, some people can take the beating. If you have other powders to work with it can be more pleasant. H110 does not download well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT78 View Post
    Ok so I am new to reloading and have purchased some .44 hammer 300 gr cast boolits from Missouri I'm having trouble finding reasonable load data for h110 hogdon shows 18-19 gr but my nosler book shows 19-20.5 gr ? Both of these are with jacketed hollow points. I loaded several rounds with cci 350 primers and did it latter style from 19gr to 19.4 gr with a coal of 1.65 are these gonna be safe to shoot? I'm using a ruger super blackhawk hunter.
    Think in terms of internal case capacity. Chances are one of those two bullets are seated out longer there for having more room for a bigger powder charge while still maintaining safe working pressures. One way to go is to add the length from the nose of the bullet to the crimp groove plus the length of the brass and then look for load data for that overall length and weight you want to shoot.
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    Recent cast boolit hunts:
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    Just an update they shot fine up to 19.4 gr with no pressure signs at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT78 View Post
    Just an update they shot fine up to 19.4 gr with no pressure signs at all.
    Full-time BEAST MODE. Good to read that all went well.

    Now that you have some empty brass, give your hand a break--find some 240 grain SWCs--and load them ahead of 8.5-9.0 grains of Unique (or 9.5-10.0 grains of Herco). These should give 950-1025 FPS, and in a SBH or Redhawk they are all-day-long loads. They aren't too bad in my Mountain Gun, either. 90% of my 44 Magnum shooting gets done with these loads, sort of a "Skeeter's Load" or "44 Special +P". I use Magnum brass in my 44s.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    I got a lot of guns I break this one out mostly for fun and stress relief so the harder it recoils the better. I got a 9mm for when I just want to plink away without recoil. Kinda like I got a bolt action .22 rifle for plinking and a 45-70 Marlin for when I want to punish my shoulder. Lol but I do appreciate the info in case I ever want to load some softer rounds for my .44 ruger.

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    Loaded up several more and shot them yesterday same coal of 1.165 up to 20gr h110 and they still shot fine with no signs of pressure.

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    I have found that behind a 275gr keith style boolit, 21-21.5 of 296 is the most I am comfortable with, which I believe makes around 1300-1350fps. I have been sticking to 20 grs lately, and am considering giving accurate 4100 and also imr 4227 a try, I have heard 4227 is a little dirty, but accurate. so if anyone has a suggested load for my weight boolit with 4227, I would appreciate it. I have info for the 4100.. good luck to the OP, PS- do you cast your own? I think you would enjoy shooting boolits you made yourself from wheelweights and scrap plumbing! I know I do!-Travis
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    I haven't gotten into casting my own so far been buying from rim rock and Missouri I really like the Missouri coated which is what I am giving the data on.

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    Matt's Bullets has a nice selection of heavy 44 cal bullets.
    http://www.mattsbullets.com/index.ph...uh9m07145uhm02
    They have 44 cal bullets up to 325gns.
    They even have the 700 grain 500S&W bullets for those who have to have the most
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    I punched your numbers into Quickload, guessing at a bullet length of .865",
    And with 20 grains of H110 you should be getting around 1240fps at 28kpsi with a loading density of 93.7%.
    I would suggest that you don't load anything lighter with H110. It generally likes to have a case full, and a heavy crimp for consistent ignition.
    21.5 grains should give you around 1348fps at 36kpsi and 101% load density.
    Remember to work up to max loads slowly and watch your primers for high pressure signs. ie Flat = max load, cratered = way over max, pierced primers = your about to blow something up...
    If you ever have to hammer your cases out of the cylinder, then you are way over max and should pull all of the bullets loaded at that charge and back off a couple of grains...
    Have fun and be safe.
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    Thanks Lar45 yeah I started at 19 gr and have been working up from there by .2 gr increments and watching for pressure signs. I found a lot of different load data when I started with these from my Sierra,Lyman, and nobler manuals as well as hodgdon website.

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    I measured them and avg is .825

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    they will work fine as others have said but most of my 44s seem to give a bit better accuracy when I'm in the 20-22 range.
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