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    Felix lube making

    I have two questions about Felix lube, both prompted by my attempt at making po-boy Felix lube last night. And yes, I have seen the sticky.

    1) First I will state that volumetric measure makes sense for the liquid or grease-like substances, but it makes little sense to call out for a 3.5" x 3.5" X 1" brick of beeswax. Most beeswax is sold today in little pellets, or you get it from the hive. A weight measure would be better, so I did the work myself and converted it:

    Beeswax is about 960 kg/cubic meter = 0.55 oz/cubic inch. 3.5 x 3.5 x 1 = 12.25 cubic inches, so 12.25 x 0.55 = ~6.75 oz of beeswax.

    So I added the 2 tablespoons of mineral oil, 1 tablespoon of castor oil, 1 tablespoon of grated Ivory soap (which weighs about 4 grams or 0.14 ounces). And then added that 6.75 ounces of beeswax. That's when I realized that Felix lube is basically BEESWAX with some stuff added to it. Finally I added 1 tablespoon of Vaseline since I don't have Lanolin and am not paying 8 dollars an ounce for the lanolin nipple lube at the pharmacy, so I realize this is not orthodox Felix lube and I want to make it with Lanolin in the future. It seems to work alright, but I have not shot it yet.

    Is my math wrong here or something, because FELIX lube is about 80% BEESWAX. People have been using beeswax as a bullet lube from the beginning. Also, has anyone found that bypassing the cooking of the Mineral Oil and Castor Oil has no impact on performance?If it is doesn't, I will gladly dispense with that tedious process.

    2) Where do you guys get cheap Lanolin?

    I like this lube, mainly because everything it is made from is food grade or at least body-contact grade. I will never heat up some EP lithium grease again after trying those lubes. It ruins everything it comes into contact with and smells horrible.

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    For lanolin, try here:
    https://www.thesage.com/catalog/FixedOil.html

    For beeswax, contact randyrat on this board.
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/memb...?2594-randyrat
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    Dear Curious, (sounds a little like Dear Abby, eh?).

    You wanted to know if: "Also, has anyone found that bypassing the cooking of the Mineral Oil and Castor Oil has no impact on performance?"

    If my good pal, Felix, were still here he might say something like, "try it and report back", all the while knowing that mix/heating the oils makes a difference. He worked on the formula and procedure for a long while. However, I understood that he devised it with the idea that it could/should be customized.

    So, there ya go!

    I know one thing, regardless of all else. The oil will not leak out if it's been done properly, regardless of how hot the ambient temperature, even sitting in the sun on a hot summer day.

    Years ago when Felix and I did the "BIG BATCH" in the MOAS (~20-25 gallons IIRC) he was very particular about cooking the oils - both time and temperature. That batch also had jojoba oil and micro paraffin in it. That was some of the finest boolit loob I have ever used.
    It ain't rocket science, it's boolit science.

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    I get my lanolin at Calwax there phone # 626-969-4334 they have all kinds of waxes and are a very good company to deal with D Crockett

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    I made my FWFL several years ago and followed the directions exactly. It turned out perfect! The absolute BEST lube I have ever used. I cast for rifles and push some higher than normal velocities for cast boolits. I don't know if your mixture will work or not but do know that properly made Felix lube works great. I got my beeswax and lanolin from the same places as posted above by alamogunr above. The beeswax came in a flat cake that was easy to measure and cut per the directions for FWFL. My advice is spend the money once and make a great lube that will last for many thousands of boolits.
    Larry

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    Yea. I found a local pharmacy that hooked me up with lanolin for a reasonable price. And Wal-Mart of all places has Carnauba for a reasonable price (also all other ingredients execpt beeswax). And beeswax I can get from my own hives or my brother's.

    What surprised me most about Felix lube is that for all the exactitude and cooking and refinement the Felix Robbins went through, his mix is basically improved beeswax. Same place we were when the NRA worked it out, what, a century ago? It makes me wonder what the heck chemists are up to, as we still can't improve upon one of the fruits of the bee!

    The wax with Vaseline is not very sticky. It doesn't cleanly break from the cake, either (I pan lube).
    Last edited by curioushooter; 02-12-2018 at 08:52 PM.

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    No mystery you have found, you're going to find that a lot of the good lubes are primarily beeswax and/or other waxes of at least 50% by volume or weight. Speed Green, BPCR, Saeco Green, etc. Check out the "Just the facts" sticky.
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    I found my lanolin at a health food store.

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