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Thread: Bitten by the 444 bug!

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    Boolit Master

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    Bitten by the 444 bug!

    Between rain storms the last couple of days a friend and I got to play with his H&R Handi in 444 Marlin, just as the title says I got bitten by the 444 bug and now have contracted a severe case of 444 fever! That's the first time I had ever shot one of those rounds and in fact it was the first time I had actually even held one of the cartridges, to say I was impressed would be an understatement. For the last year or so I have been in the process of building a 38-55 that was originally intended to be a 45-90 but since I already have one 45-90 I changed my mind and decided to do it in 38-55, looks as if it has been changed again! Fortunately I have not yet acquired a barrel for the 38-55 so at this stage going with the bigger 44 will be no problem. Knowing little about the 444 I have a couple of questions, barrel length and twist rate? Bullet style and weight? Any other suggestions?

    BTW, this will be a HighWall and I would like to outfit it with a mid-weight octagon barrel but I don't yet have a clue as to what I need to look for as far as twist rate, etc?
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    Boolit Master
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    I have a HighWall that is a rebored 30-06. I had it done with a 16 inch twist and no complaints.

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    not another one!!!!

    i have a tc encore that is 444 marlin with a 24" MGM barrel and a 1 in 20" twist. it is very accurate!!! i used a 200 - 280gr gc wfn/lfn/hp/ranch dog/swc/wc. i have done 2300fps(275gr rd) to around 1200fps(200gr swc). i have done trail boss, unique, 2400, h4198, rel 7, h322..... my load now is a 280gr gc wfn with 25.5gr of 2400 that goes around(no chrono) 1700fps. soon i want to go to 300gr saeco or 310gr lee over a charge of 2400. i download the 444 because of my shoulder hurts when i go full bore on the 444.

    http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/
    is a good place to go to 444 marlin.

    there is guy on the other forum that swears by his 455gr safari grade(its a custom mould). you can find out that the 444 is truly a handloaders dream!!! 180gr all the way up to 455gr boolits on speeds that are wimpy(like me) and speeds that will knock your socks off!!!

    i still don't know much about the triple 4, but i have done much with it!!!

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    Boolit Master GhostHawk's Avatar
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    I have a handi rifle in .444marlin that is one of my 2 best shooters of all my guns.

    According to the FAQ over at GBO twist rate is ".444 Marlin 1:20"

    I do tend to load mine quite light. .44mag moderate loads essentially in .444marlin brass.

    Makes for happy shoulders and longer sessions.

    However I had my best accuracy with the Lee 310 gr .430 clone over 13 grains of Red Dot.

    10 grains also shot well, and I need to get more range time with 6 grains over a lighter bullet.
    Last time I had it out both the scope and scope base had worked loose and I did not accomplish much.

    I LIKE mine, you can load it mild to wild and it will get the job done.

    But I got my new .45colt barrel out to the range yesterday and it was trying its dammedest to give me cloverleafs. Opperator error and only a Red Dot sight left me with this. Shot at 25 and 50 yards.

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    Boolit Master OlDeuce's Avatar
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    I sent my winchester barrel to Taylor Machine in Washington !! We did a.429 with a 1:18 twist and my MGM 24" is a 1:20 twist and can't tell the difference
    between the two !!! I chambered both barrels to 2.080 !!! which is Hornady's short .444 case !!! and I load with 2400 under a 310gr GC & 200gr RN !! The
    44mag loads are nice ! and you can go up depending on "age" LoL.............Ol Deuce


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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check