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    If the MBF power supply shuts down @0.8, there is no room for something else, or am I wrong?
    Not to mention the MBF powersupply is adjustable and you might have it set so it cannot power some other device.

    Like how does your light sensor act when connected to a PWM speed controller? Might be why they use the simple limit switch vs a sensor with more electronics involved.

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    I've been wondering why you guys want to add more complexity to the design. A simple switch works perfect for the original design, why add more power supplies and circuits to do the same thing? I'm trying to modify the tube to fit an off the shelf switch from Amazon since the original designed switch is no longer available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark2215 View Post
    I've been wondering why you guys want to add more complexity to the design. A simple switch works perfect for the original design, why add more power supplies and circuits to do the same thing? I'm trying to modify the tube to fit an off the shelf switch from Amazon since the original designed switch is no longer available.
    We are talking about that, after you broke 3 or 4 of that switches The standard switch isnt usable for lighter bullets like 9mm 115 grs. You have to open the switch and modify the spring. I suggest to buy a 10th pack of it

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    The ones I use already have light springs in them, they even work with 35 grain .224 bullets.

    I just cut a slot in the tube and use a wrap around style mount. Knock on wood but I have never had to replace one yet but I also haven’t tried to break into one and change the design either.
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    Do you have a link for the switch you use?

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    The Cherry E22-85HX is the switch I use.

    Edit: mouser doesn’t have them in stock but these folks do.

    https://www.onlinecomponents.com/olc...tml?p=11073738

    It has a maximum operating force of 2 grams, almost 31 grains.

    https://www.mouser.com/ds/2/833/E21_Series-1275431.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmmoMike83 View Post
    The standard switch isnt usable for lighter bullets like 9mm 115 grs.
    I don't understand as they use the same type switches on case collators and empty cases weigh less then a 9mm bullet
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    The one used for the MBF isn't any easier to switch, it just has a very long lever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark2215 View Post
    I've been wondering why you guys want to add more complexity to the design. A simple switch works perfect for the original design, why add more power supplies and circuits to do the same thing? I'm trying to modify the tube to fit an off the shelf switch from Amazon since the original designed switch is no longer available.
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    want?

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    Please and thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark2215 View Post
    Please and thank you!
    Uploaded on thingiverse. Have fun! (and don't forget to tip )

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    Quote Originally Posted by HATCH View Post
    I don't understand as they use the same type switches on case collators and empty cases weigh less then a 9mm bullet
    True. But there are a lot of "standard" switches on ebay and amazon that won't work. The first product on Amazon if you type "micro switch" for example. The "Hartmann MBF5B", another example.

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    I have some that I use with the Master Caster Panel.
    You can move the arm so it provides more leverage.


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    The optical circuit and a 12v LED works way smoother and there is no mechanical anything to mess with just like the Video I made. less than $15 and be done with it no adjustment except a little trim pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recordingwhiz View Post
    The optical circuit and a 12v LED works way smoother and there is no mechanical anything to mess with just like the Video I made. less than $15 and be done with it no adjustment except a little trim pot.
    I concur! Thank you for support

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recordingwhiz View Post
    The optical circuit and a 12v LED works way smoother and there is no mechanical anything to mess with just like the Video I made. less than $15 and be done with it no adjustment except a little trim pot.
    There are a lot of ways to do this. It all depends on what trips your trigger
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    Of course, I just went with the system I knew would be simple, with no mechanical parts so to say. nothing to jam or break, but there are electronics involved so...

    but you are correct, that is the beauty of DIY, you can attack any thing in any way that you desire or find to be better, that is how this project is evolving, and as my video shows, has provided a complete working system.

    Cheers

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    Extending the lever length will increase the force applied by a lighter load. I have done it by soldering an extension on some, used JB weld on another... trick we used at the casino to keep old slot machines with obsolete parts going!


    Quote Originally Posted by jmorris View Post
    The ones I use already have light springs in them, they even work with 35 grain .224 bullets.

    I just cut a slot in the tube and use a wrap around style mount. Knock on wood but I have never had to replace one yet but I also haven’t tried to break into one and change the design either.

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    I have one day left printing the base plate. Hopefully I'll be assembling tomorrow. I haven't seen a list of hardware needed to assemble everything. Does anyone have one? If not, I'll keep track as I find out what fits and post it here.

    Edit: Of course, right after I post this I see the instructional pdf Mike created. Thanks!!
    Last edited by Mark2215; 03-04-2018 at 10:12 AM.

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    I'm going to use a refrigeration spring tool that is used to bend copper tubing from the hardware store for around $6.00 to deliver the bullets from the collator to the bullet tube on my Dillon 650 press. The stand I will have to fabricate from scratch since I do not have a Dillon case collator. I'm going to either use a simple micro-switch to turn the collator on or off or make up a optical sensor to do it. The power supply so far is a simple wall wart without any current sensing.

    I wish someone had a stand that was 3D printed that someone could screw to the bench and telescope to the height needed.

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