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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Large slide or small? The large plate will probably function 100% for you.
    Large

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fil131 View Post
    Unless I'm losing my mind only one of them says dillon and it's for rod? And now your google drive says no files.
    I have no mount with rod in the name, so I am not sure what files you are looking at. I did remove the download because I am making a change. I just posted the two mount files you are looking for though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lablover View Post
    Large
    It will be fine then. I am posting a small change though. Trying to squeeze out every bit of reliability I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    I have no mount with rod in the name, so I am not sure what files you are looking at. I did remove the download because I am making a change. I just posted the two mount files you are looking for though.
    Sweet got em, these print ok without supports?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fil131 View Post
    Sweet got em, these print ok without supports?
    Absolutely. Just lay them on the their side on the build plate. The round part is flush with the side, so it will build that right up from the bottom no issue. 3d printers love to make circles without supports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Absolutely. Just lay them on the their side on the build plate. The round part is flush with the side, so it will build that right up from the bottom no issue. 3d printers love to make circles without supports.

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    Gotcha makes sense, I couldn't tell that the circular pieces were all the way to the edge at first glance

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    Files are back up.

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    Hi Tyler,

    Thanks for putting the APP files up

    Can you please explain how they work? I know it might sound dumb but a picture goes a long way for me.

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Files are back up.
    Base up safe again? I’d be curious as what you changed. And if I need to reprint the large base up plate. Amazing work. I printed the large base before you said not to and it’s amazing the little details in that thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lablover View Post
    Base up safe again? I’d be curious as what you changed. And if I need to reprint the large base up plate. Amazing work. I printed the large base before you said not to and it’s amazing the little details in that thing.
    Very minor changes to the ramp. The one you printed should work fine. Mostly I changed the small base up collator plate from 18mm to 19mm height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o416 View Post
    Hi Tyler,

    Thanks for putting the APP files up

    Can you please explain how they work? I know it might sound dumb but a picture goes a long way for me.

    Thanks again!
    It's pretty straight forward. Use a spring from the collator to the drop tube just like normal. For 9mm and 40sw brass, or sizing pistol bullets (9mm-45acp), the DAA large spring and my large adapters will work. For 45acp brass you would need the DAA output chute spring, which is 13.5mm ID, and my extra large adapters.

    Print out the "APP_Drop_Tube_#3_#4_Tube_Adapter". This will connect the drop tube to either the #3 or #4 (two largest) plastic tubes that come with the APP. From here you are just setting up the APP the way you would normally. You can cut the tube down to be shorter if you want, which is what I did.

    There is a pic of my setup on page 79. In the pic you will see I also have a "APP_Offset_Connector" on the APP press. I came up with this and use it primarily for sizing 45acp bullets, because it gives me more clearance between the tube and my modified handle. It will not work with .45 brass (they will get hung up), but I assume it would with everything else.

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    Here is the DAA output chute spring. It is larger then the DAA large spring by .5mm, and is 4 feet long, so you can cut it up in to whatever length pieces you need. I mentioned this before, but if I were to buy springs again I would just get the small DAA spring and this output spring, and skip the large one. This one will do everything the large one does and more. Who knows maybe you can find a use for the chute too. lol

    https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/doubl...BoCXCkQAvD_BwE
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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Very minor changes to the ramp. The one you printed should work fine. Mostly I changed the small base up collator plate from 18mm to 19mm height.
    Thanks buddy. Going to start collator plate now

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    Quote Originally Posted by lablover View Post
    Thanks buddy. Going to start collator plate now
    Just for the record, I print all my collator plates at 2 walls and 10% infill these days, and they are plenty strong. I have printed these things so many times I was burning through filament like crazy.

    Oh and I can't stress this enough. Make sure you have enough angle on the feeder when you are feeding brass. 45-60 degrees.

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    I totally forgot, I was going to include some other APP stuff I have designed. I have a dedicated APP bullet slide for 45acp and 9mm. I find them to be more reliable then the stock APP slide. I also designed a replacement base for the APP slide for brass. It has additional support at the base of the case to improve reliability (some assembly required )

    I have added the parts to the download and incremented to v1.0.6.
    Last edited by TylerR; 10-18-2020 at 10:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    I totally forgot, I was going to include some other APP stuff I have designed. I have a dedicated APP bullet slide for 45acp and 9mm. I find them to be more reliable then the stock APP slide. I also designed a replacement base for the APP slide for brass. It has additional support at the base of the case to improve reliability (some assembly required )

    I have added the parts to the download and incremented to v1.0.6.

    Great info on printing the collater plates. I got side tracked and didn’t start a print, so I will with your settings. Bet it cuts on time as well.

    Looking forward to your APP mods. I really dislike the App slide..it’s pretty flimsy.

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    I just noticed you put a small notch in the hex plate for the set screw on the brass hex adapter, Very nice touch. And time cut big time by your suggested settings. 4 hour time cut! Epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lablover View Post
    I just noticed you put a small notch in the hex plate for the set screw on the brass hex adapter, Very nice touch. And time cut big time by your suggested settings. 4 hour time cut! Epic.
    Nice! Please let me know if the sizing on the notch seems appropriate. It could be adjusted if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerR View Post
    Nice! Please let me know if the sizing on the notch seems appropriate. It could be adjusted if needed.
    I’ll let you know in about 9 hours

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    In case any one is wondering how to orient the APP slides.

    On the brass slide, the little tab gets glued in to the rear slot. If you look at the original design you will see what I mean. Or there is a one piece version you can print with supports. Just disassemble the original APP slide and replace the bottom part with my part, using the original claws and top piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fil131 View Post
    Gotcha makes sense, I couldn't tell that the circular pieces were all the way to the edge at first glance
    If you look at the latest version, I modified it to have a slight flat edge there to make it more obvious.

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