New for 2018: Auto Breech Lock PRO

[rbstern]

Some videos are starting to pop up......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUBy...ature=youtu.be

Looks like it works smoothly. Excited to learn more.

Like the "World's fastest single stage press" angle. Pretty funny.

[usbp379]

Like the "World's fastest single stage press" angle.

That's Lee's way of saying, "We couldn't get a primer feed system figured out for this press."

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[1bluehorse]

That's Lee's way of saying, "We couldn't get a primer feed system figured out for this press."

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Wonder why they don't show installing and using the safety prime.....I would be interested in seeing that. Everyone that is dissing the press because the safety prime is a manual operation so is a "deal breaker" and not truly a progressive press never seem to complain about the Dillon 550B/C or whatever it's up to now being a manually indexed press . I doubt I'll be buying one of these as I have recently "thinned" the herd down (sold off three progressive presses) to a Pro 2000, CO-AX and a Lee Classic Cast SS. If I felt I "needed" another progressive press I would probably have kept the Dillon I had. However, this Lee press seems like it would be pretty good for copious amounts of 9mm and 45acp (short cases), whereas neither the Dillon I had or the RCBS I still have didn't/doesn't have a case feeder (for 35 bucks the Lee can) plus the RCBS is a big press for those shorter cases so the Lee might just be a "better" setup over either just for ease and speed for those calibers. At least that's the way it appears to me. May just have to try one and see. There, see how that works for talking yourself into something. Works every time......

[flashhole]

I still want to know if the red colored parts are plastic. They look like plastic in the videos. Plastic is a deal breaker for me.

[Livin_cincy]

I still want to know if the red colored parts are plastic. They look like plastic in the videos. Plastic is a deal breaker for me.

I am going to guess that they are. They have always been good with material selections. It looks like the red is the shroud and not the acutual parts involved with the force application. Dillon's, Hornady LNL, and the RCBS Prochuckers are all made of pot metal... Aluminum. They dress is up and say "Alloy Frame" and leave off the Aluminum. The Polymer Guns have lasted 30 years so Polymer (aka Plastic) is here to stay according to the US Army.

[kmw1954]

As someone that has both a 3 hole Value turret press and a 3 hole Pro1000 progressive and one that does use them both, this is my thought.

This press may just be the thing for someone that is just starting to advance in the sport, someone that has outgrown their single stage press for reloading pistols. I believe it will be much faster than a turret press and less problematic for many as far as priming than the Pro1000, though I doubt as fast. This will allow the use of the 4 die pistol sets or the 3 die sets with either a powder check or a bullet feeder die or who knows what other configuration.

If all this press is going to be used for is basic pistol calibers I don't see where plastic parts are going to be a big problem. Pistol loading just doesn't put the strain on a press like large bore rifles do. Honestly look around yourself and see just how much plastic has taken over our world in every aspect. One can hardly find a diecast metal part any more. Again anyone not comfortable using plastic parts doesn't have to buy it as there are many other options out there that would make you much happier.

As I have mentioned previously, I have too much invested in my Pro1000 to just give up on it to move to this new press. That would mean giving up carriers and shellplates and having to buy new for my 380, 9mm, 38/357 and 45acp because they will not transfer over to this new press.

Now I am only a little more than an hour away from Titan Reloading so I may just have to take a road trip up there to check it out. Besides there are some things I need to buy anyways!

[flashhole]

If you do make the trip and inspect the press please let us know your impressions.

[kmw1954]

If you do make the trip and inspect the press please let us know your impressions.

I certainly will do that as I am just as curious as the rest of you.
I just got off the phone with Titan, they have one in the store but it is not set up yet, they are hoping by tomorrow. They are also planning on a youtube video after they get it set up. When? They wouldn't commit.

[1bluehorse]

I still want to know if the red colored parts are plastic. They look like plastic in the videos. Plastic is a deal breaker for me.

I doubt that the steel base has a "plastic" cover over it. More than likely powder coated or perhaps just red paint. Why go to the expense of a cover? One thing I noticed in the video that I really like is the way you would insert a case IF you didn't want to install a case feeder. Right into a hole in the top of the die plate rather than hand "slide" one into the shell plate, would be much easier, good idea . Seems like this press is going to be very versatile and is starting to look better to me. $250 bucks with everything but a bullet feeder and dies ( but including a powder thru x-pander) shipped is pretty reasonable. Hmmmmm...

[farmerjim]

I don't know where all these expensive estimates to set up one of these Breach lock pro presses are coming from. If you reload for a caliber now all you need is
Breach lock pro 106.99
shell plate 18.29
case feed 26.49
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$151.77

and you probably already have a case feed that will work making the cost only
$125.28
What am I forgetting/
The original ship date was the first week of April. We are now finishing the second week. Has anybody got any updates as to when they will ship?

[1bluehorse]

I don't know where all these expensive estimates to set up one of these Breach lock pro presses are coming from. If you reload for a caliber now all you need is
Breach lock pro 106.99
shell plate 18.29
case feed 26.49
______
$151.77

and you probably already have a case feed that will work making the cost only
$125.28
What am I forgetting/


The original ship date was the first week of April. We are now finishing the second week. Has anybody got any updates as to when they will ship?

Powder measure if someone doesn't have one albeit not necessary and the safety prime system, again not needed. The numbers I used are from Midsouth and included pretty much everything to deck it out with all Lee equipment. Some of us don't use Lee stuff so don't have "extras" laying about.

[farmerjim]

"Powder measure if someone doesn't have one albeit not necessary and the safety prime system, again not needed. "

You do need these if you are going to use the press to near it's potential.
and you do need the powder through ex-pander die if your die set is not a lee.

That gets it up to $230 + shipping.

I have ordered one because my cost is the $125.
It is a much better buy if you have the lee equipment , but it is still a good buy if it works good.

[1bluehorse]

You do need these if you are going to use the press to near it's potential.
and you do need the powder through ex-pander die if your die set is not a lee.

That gets it up to $230 + shipping. .

$230.00 + $10.00 for PT xpander die + $10.00 shipping (Midsouth) = $250.00..ta da..

[Boogedy_Man]

Auto drum is $37, and auto prime is $22...the leap to 230 was a big'n.

[Tom Myers]

I don't know where all these expensive estimates to set up one of these Breach lock pro presses are coming from. If you reload for a caliber now all you need is
Breach lock pro 106.99
shell plate 18.29
case feed 26.49
______
$151.77

and you probably already have a case feed that will work making the cost only
$125.28
What am I forgetting/
The original ship date was the first week of April. We are now finishing the second week. Has anybody got any updates as to when they will ship?

I have had an Auto Breech Lock PRO on backorder from Midsouth Shooters Supply for over a month now.
About an hour ago an email arrived asking if I wanted to confirm the order.
"Yes" I replied.

This response just arrived in my in box.

**********************
Thank you for the reply. We will get your order processed for shipping.

Thank you,

P***p

Midsouth Shooters Supply

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Now to get some shell plates for 223, 9mm, 357Mag and 44 special, some more bushings and the universal case feeder on the way.
I have a Safety Prime, dies, a couple of bullet feeders and auto drums on hand so we will see if all the hype has any merit.

An evaluation will be posted after things are up and running.

[Tom Myers]

MidSouth did not have all that I needed on hand, but Titan seems to be fully stocked on shell plates and Lock Bushings so my plates and bushings are on the way.

The Auto Breech Lock Press + Shipping price was $116.26

The cost of the 4 shell plates was $18.99 x 4 = $75.96
The cost of 3 extra Breech Lock Eliminators was 11.98 x 3 = $35.94
The cost of 4 more Quick Change Bushing to supplement what I have on hand was $4.39 x 4 = 17.56
Shipping cost is $11.95
Total extras = 4 calibers at $35.35 each = $141.41

So A total of $256.67 out of pocket to be completely set up to load 4 calibers. I guess I can live with that.

[1bluehorse]

[QUOTE=Tom Myers;4345368]MidSouth did not have all that I needed on hand, but Titan seems to be fully stocked on shell plates and Lock Bushings so my plates and bushings are on the way.

The Auto Breech Lock Press + Shipping price was $116.26

The cost of the 4 shell plates was $18.99 x 4 = $75.96
The cost of 3 extra Breech Lock Eliminators was 11.98 x 3 = $35.94
The cost of 4 more Quick Change Bushing to supplement what I have on hand was $4.39 x 4 = 17.56
Shipping cost is $11.95
Total extras = 4 calibers at $35.35 each = $141.41

So A total of $256.67 out of pocket to be completely set up to load 4 calibers. I guess I can live with that.

Better than excellent !! I'd say that's pretty darn good for a progressive press set up for 4 calibers. We wait patiently for your critique. Don't forget, take pictures and be ready to answer many questions.... The unwashed masses are curious......

[Tom Myers]

I also have a couple of bullet feeders that were gathering dust as they worked well with jacketed bullets, however did not do a stellar job with greasy grooved bullets but may work just fine with my new powder coating venture.

I am not sure just how the bullet feeder is set up to work with the Quick Change Bushings but if they work OK, and require individual feeders for a quick setup, I may need a couple more.

The Safety Prime that I have set up on my other Lee presses worked just fine after being adjusted correctly and I am confident that the device will work well on the new press also. However I would like the operation of this press to simulate a completely progressive press and, to me, that means 1 round with one pull without the need to coordinate another operation within the cycle of the press. So I'll check out what I do most of the time anyway, prime my cases with the Lee Auto Prime while watching T.V.
Who knows I may like a manual primer feed during the cycle.

[kmw1954]

Looks like this is finally going to get interesting!

Again as a Lee user I could get away cheaper as I already have the dies and powder measures. Though as I do prime on the press I would expect to continue that so the Safety Prime would be needed. For now I could get by with shell plates for just the 9mm and 45acp. Would still need bushings or just dedicate to 9mm as I do have 2 sets of dies.

[kens]

I'm waiting too.
Lee gets beat up a lot on this forum, and I understand why.
But then, Lee has some pretty good stuff, like, the original hand prime, it was a Godsend.
And Lee 6-cavity molds, I got several, and all of them are good.
And I have a old 3-station turret press, I use it like a single stage, but with 3 dies in the turret. I really like it.
I hope this new press turns out to be one of the good items from Lee.