1 fg bp powder.

[toot]

i have all ways used 2 FG to load my 12 gauge brass hulls. and i was in a gun shop to get some 2 FG, and told the owner what i was using it for and he said to use 1 FG. in them. i thought that it was for 75 caliber muskets and small cannons, has any loaded it in there brass 12 gauge hulls and how did it perform?

[country gent]

I use 1f or 1 1/2f in my 45-90 with great results. it fills more volumne and gives better compression sometimes. Experiment with it and see what works for you and your firearm.

[Don McDowell]

12 gauge is a 75 caliber.... I used a lot of 1f in a 14 ga muzzle loader with good results, and I am using 1f in a 40-90 bn sharps.

[toot]

i have used 1fg. in a 75 cal BROWN BESS be fore, but my question was about 12 ga. brass hulls witch i have never loaded with it be fore. i did not what to expect with pressure, shot pattern, use of plastic shot cups VRS. wads ETC. i might try it in my 45/70 thank,s for the come back guys.

[Don McDowell]

As with any other shot gun loading you'll need to use a good wad between the powder and the shot cup, over shot wads, crimp, etc. 1f operates at lower pressures than the powders with more ff's.

[toot]

DON McDowell, i can't just use a plastic shot cup over the black powder with out using a good wad under it?.

[Don McDowell]

You can, but you'll likely end up with a plastic coated bore.

[enfield]

I was shooting a 12 gage with brass hulls yesterday, just over 100 Gr 1F, they worked fine but quite sooty ( I think the brass should have been annealed )

[toot]

Don McDowell, woh! plastic coating in my barrel how would one go about getting that mess out of a bore? glad you gave advise be fore i went and loaded them up without an over powder wad.

[toot]

enfield, what was the wad column that you used with the 100 grain 1 fg. load in the brass hulls? was it a plastic shot cup with an over powder wad, or card board and felt wads?

[toot]

enfield, what makes you think the brass should have been annealed? did they split on firing?

[Wayne Smith]

Shooter's Choice Shotgun foam cleaner - takes out the plastic. At least in my shotgun.

[toot]

Wayne Smith, thanks for the info.do you put it on a patch or a brass bore brush? and where is the best place to get some?

[enfield]

The brass didn't split it just leaked a lot of soot back along the case, I assume annealing would help seal it against the chamber better. It wasn't my shotgun and I didn't load the cases but I'm sure it was 103 gr 1F , a card wad, 12ga 1/2" Circle Fly wad , 1 oz #4 shot another card and some glue to hold the card in place.

[enfield]

see if this link will take you to the shooting test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJKv4g60AgE

[Wayne Smith]

Wayne Smith, thanks for the info.do you put it on a patch or a brass bore brush? and where is the best place to get some?

Bought it at the LGS, foamed the bore and let it set for a couple minutes, nylon brush brought out strings of plastic.

[toot]

Wayne Smith, thanks for responding to my query I asked you. i have never seen/ looked for it be fore, just thought it was just another gun cleaner. you say foamed the bore, so it comes in an air-sol can? now it is going to be on my reloading bench thanks to you. best, toot.

[sharps4590]

Best way to get plastic residue out of a bore is to not put it in there in the first place. The traditional wad column works just fine.

[toot]

enfield, thanks for getting back.

[cajun shooter]

I used plastic wads in my SASS 12 ga. loads for years without nair a problem. When I arrived at home from a match, I would take my SXS apart and spray the bbls down with my moose milk. You may run a brass brush or spiral brush down the bore slowly and out the end will come what looks like a shed snake skin. I followed that with a cotton mop and the barrel looked like new inside and out. I sprayed all my guns with this product as it was made for metal, wood and leather.
To make your own moose milk, I mix in a 16 oz plastic spray bottle, 2 oz of Ballistol with 14 oz of water. If it seperates on you, just shake from time to time. I purchase the commercial spray bottles from Lowes or Home Depot.
After spraying and cleaning all of my guns,I put a patch of Ezzol inside and out for rust protection. I have sprayed my guns down with moose milk and waited until Monday to clean also.
I was always having holes in my patterns when I used the cardboard wads. I was missing steel at 10 yards!! Look up donut holes, it's hard to believe but it happens. I've never missed since going to plastic wads.