Gotta get this one as well. Plain base, all pins please. brandonh at vmsi-us dot com
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Gotta get this one as well. Plain base, all pins please. brandonh at vmsi-us dot com
Thanks
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This should be fun. 1 gascheck, all pins please. thomasherron2 at gmail dot com
I believe I have the list up to date, as of this moment.
Miha has confirmed that the molds, either gas checked or plain base will be 85 EUROS, or $106 US Dollars. The price will include the mold, all pins, lube, top punch, and allen wrench. Those of you sitting on the fence, waiting for pricing, can now make decisions. Thanks for your orders!
This mold is available with EITHER a plain base, or gas checked, same price. Please double check your order, and make sure I have the type of base correct. Several of you have asked for (and will receive) plain base type, no gas check. Just make sure I have your orders correct.
For the record, for lighter recoil with my 500 Magnum loads, I always use Trailboss, with not much loss in accuracy (to a distance). For the STOUT loads, I always use Lil'Gun. OUCH! Remember, the longer your barrel, the more felt recoil. So, size does matter.
For those not in the know, "Tin Star" is: Vihtavuori N32C TIN STAR It comes in one pound containers for approximately $46 per pound, when you can find it. By comparison, light and fluffy Hodgdon Trail Boss comes in a 9 ounce container (approx equal to a pound of Tin Star) for less than $20, and in a five pound container for about $115.
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Gas checked with all pins thank you.
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Thoughts on TinStar powder compared to Trail Boss
Here's some info some may find interesting. Doing some checking with Quickload, two things become apparent.
First, the people who claim that TB is safe at 100% loading density in any cartridge are probably correct, except perhaps in the very weakest, junkiest firearms made originally for BP loads.
Doing a quick check of a .50 BMG round with an 800 grain bullet seated only .200" deep, 85 grains of TB is 100% load density, and gives 38,200 PSI and a muzzle velocity of 1520 FPS in a 26" barrel. Interestingly, raising the bullet weight to 2000 grains raises the pressure only a bit, to 39,500 PSI with M.V. of 978 FPS. Going for full-on crazy with a bullet of 7000 grains (one pound) gives 40,200 PSI and 525 FPS. This is all with the same 85 grain powder charge.
Second, according to Quickload, TinStar has almost exactly the same burning characteristics as TB on an identical weight basis. A charge of 85 grains of TinStar gives similar numbers as TB in these .50 BMG examples, and simulations on other cartridge/caliber combinations I have tried give similar results.
HOWEVER, and this is a very big deal, TinStar is much less bulky than TB. A charge weight that is 100% density with TB is only 67% density using TinStar. If we raise the charge with TS to 100% in our three .50 BMG examples, we get a charge weight of 126 grains and pressures of 66,000 to 68,000 PSI. This is not enough to bother either a Browning MG or a good bolt gun in this caliber, but it's an indication that TinStar carries some serious risks for the handloader with either a cavalier attitude or incomplete information. I'll explain:
Let's switch to the .45 Colt cartridge with 250 grain cast bullet. A charge of 8.9 grains of TB gives 100% loading density, 16,000 PSI, and 900 FPS out of a 5" barrel. This is 2,000 PSI above SAAMI Spec, but probably not enough to damage an original Colt.
Things get scary when we switch to TinStar. The same 8.9 grain charge gives only 67% loading density but a pressure of 17,400 PSI. Raising the load density to 100% gives us 13.5 grains of TinStar which gives a pressure of 38,000 PSI. Bye-bye original Colt...
TinStar is an interesting powder that can be used for reduced loads in modern guns by shooters who want more oomph than TrailBoss can deliver, but IMO in these cases there are always better choices.
As an example, a 100% density TinStar load in my beloved .500 S&W (24.5 gr.) with my 400 grain Alley Cleaner bullet gives 1200 FPS at 50,000 PSI. At an 80% loading density (19.6 gr.), we get 1060 FPS at 34,600 PSI. Neither of these loads will hurt the gun, but a powder like Ramshot Enforcer will give 1200 FPS at 23,000 PSI, the same velocity as the top TinStar load at less than half the pressure.
Even if TinStar were half the price of other powders, I don't think I'd ever use it. I think we're going to see some original Colt SAAs (and others) blown up with this powder by folks who mistakenly believe they can treat it like Trail Boss...
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I will take the plain base with all the pins. poppop542000atyahoodotcom
John, Well done!!
Those trying to use Tin Star in the same way as Trail Boss will experience Unintended Consequences!
BTW, I just confirmed with Chris Hodgdon at Hodgdon Powder that because of a recent Federal safety rule change, Trail Boss powder will no longer be produced in 5 pound containers. This powder will ONLY be offered in 9 ounce and 2 pound containers. They have brought the powder in under the Hodgdon product line. So, it is no longer part of the IMR lineup. Hope that helps people with their searches.
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We're THREE molds away from adding this to Miha's production schedule.
For those of you shooting 500 S&W Magnums, this is a wonderful opportunity to get an amazing, truly custom designed, mold. So, please get your name in. I am as anxious as are the rest of the shooters, to receive, and start casting with this one.
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I will do this. One mold GC all pins. Thanks.
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Duke, your putting a hurt on me. I'm in for 1 mold, gas checked base, all pins. rockyert68 at yahoo dot com This should give me a good range of bullet weight (700,600, and now 400).
One more makes 20. GBs have been moving fast lately. Miha's machinery is going to be tied up for a while!
I’ll take a gas checked with all pins scottturknett at hotmail dot com
I'm in. Plain Base with all pins. g i j o e 9 9 5 9 at g m a i l dot c o m
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We have reached the 20 molds that were required for production., As you saw with the 700 T-Rex mold, Miha works fast to produce the molds.,, So, if there are any stragglers, you need to get off the fence ASAP. When Miha asks me to close the Group Buy, which should be soon, I will move the Buy to the closed area, and will not take any additional orders.
Please double check my listing to assure that I have you in for the correct style base (gas checked or plain base) on your order. I have rechecked it several times, but we are all prone to mistakes. I want everyone to get the mold that they expect!
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Please see this link
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...Shipping-costs!!!
I’ll take a plain based please
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Weights are only one aspect of the 500 Magnum boolits. Please also consider the number of unique nose designs. When I go to the gun club with my 500 Magnum, the crowd is all ooohs and ahhhs with the myriad of bullet designs I bring. So, stay tuned to the 500 magnum channel (here), for additional nose designs and weights. You will be happy.
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |