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    Quote Originally Posted by DHDeal View Post
    One question, and one statement CW: what's snow, and I really like that little Bisley!

    OK, I looked it up and snow is frozen precipitation, and I still really like that little Bisley.
    Snow is the stuff that eats brass. If you want semi auto brass around here, show up around April 10th, and there will be hundreds, if not thousands of cases on the 25 yard line freshly cleaned.

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    I really have seen some before, and I don't know what all the fuss is about as it only gets about 1" deep 😉😉😉😉😉.

    This heavy bullet 327 thing promises to be some serious fun, and I already know it's expensive. I still haven't shot my new FA97 in 327 yet. I do know the throats aren't going to accept anything over 312". All of my 83's are similar in that the throats are tight and you have to be particular in sizing the bullets.

    I ordered an Accurate Molds PB mold a couple days ago. It is a 31-126D. I requested a few changes to another similar slightly lighter mold. I've had very good experience with similar bullets from Tom. I had him make up 36-176D a few years back, and it is a fine very accurate bullet out of every 357 Magnum it has been fired from. I hope and suspect the 31-126D will do the same. Both styles come out to have a 70% meplat.

    I love the look of a WFN style bullet, but a LFN style has always shot better out of my revolvers regardless of caliber. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHDeal View Post
    I really have seen some before, and I don't know what all the fuss is about as it only gets about 1" deep ����������.

    This heavy bullet 327 thing promises to be some serious fun, and I already know it's expensive. I still haven't shot my new FA97 in 327 yet. I do know the throats aren't going to accept anything over 312". All of my 83's are similar in that the throats are tight and you have to be particular in sizing the bullets.

    I ordered an Accurate Molds PB mold a couple days ago. It is a 31-126D. I requested a few changes to another similar slightly lighter mold. I've had very good experience with similar bullets from Tom. I had him make up 36-176D a few years back, and it is a fine very accurate bullet out of every 357 Magnum it has been fired from. I hope and suspect the 31-126D will do the same. Both styles come out to have a 70% meplat.

    I love the look of a WFN style bullet, but a LFN style has always shot better out of my revolvers regardless of caliber. YMMV.
    The tight throats are not necessarily bad. If you get a .312" or smaller groove barrel, and a .312" or slightly larger throats you might have it made. As I said in some earlier post somewhere, one problem many, if not all of us have had is splitting cases. There is no doubt there is some blame on poor quality Starline cases, but the problem is compounded by both overworking the brass with too small of a sizing die, and generously sized charge holes. If you are able to run .312" sized bullets, and your FA has tight charge holes, you will probably never have this problem. Plus you won't have to worry about special expanding dies, or any other problem, everything is already made for .312" bullets.

    And if your throats are smaller than your groove diameter, the best fix is to send the cylinder out to Dougguy and run either .313" or .314" bullets like the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHDeal View Post
    One question, and one statement CW: what's snow, and I really like that little Bisley!

    OK, I looked it up and snow is frozen precipitation, and I still really like that little Bisley.
    Thank you. Yea the white stuff is cause of much aggravation here.

    He is two targets shot with all ammo I brought to range. Five shots each. I saw it was left and adjusted for RH target. Both shot one and two handed off hand at 25 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megasupermagnum View Post
    The tight throats are not necessarily bad. If you get a .312" or smaller groove barrel, and a .312" or slightly larger throats you might have it made. As I said in some earlier post somewhere, one problem many, if not all of us have had is splitting cases. There is no doubt there is some blame on poor quality Starline cases, but the problem is compounded by both overworking the brass with too small of a sizing die, and generously sized charge holes. If you are able to run .312" sized bullets, and your FA has tight charge holes, you will probably never have this problem. Plus you won't have to worry about special expanding dies, or any other problem, everything is already made for .312" bullets.

    And if your throats are smaller than your groove diameter, the best fix is to send the cylinder out to Dougguy and run either .313" or .314" bullets like the rest of us.
    I have the FA83's and already knew I was not going to be sliding a fat bullet in my cylinder. I just didn't know what "fat" was gonna be without the gun. Being anal and possibly OCD (not always a bad thing), I ordered a Lee .311 sizer planning to open it up. Well the OCD part of me won and I decided to go ahead and open it up to .3125". I ended up opening it to .3126" - .3217" without the cylinder here to measure. I was barely smart enough to order a second .311" sizer just in case. Naturally my "just in case" became necessary as soon as I dropped a .3126" Sledgehammer in the chambers. I hate it when I do this, but I can and do laugh at myself!

    I've used DougGuy before and have benefited from his skill, but these Freedom Arms revolvers don't get that treatment. I size bullets to fit them. I may be wrong, but probably won't be, in that the throats will be slightly over .312" and the barrel will be closer to .312" than I can measure. The chambers on every FA here have always been very tight also. I've found that the transition from chamber to throat is abrupt in FA revolvers. When you're driving an expensive car, you can't complain about what it costs to have it serviced I've learned....

    This will work out fine, and I'll enjoy the scenery along the journey. I appreciate the pointers here and know I've Hijacked the heck out of this thread, and CW I really like that little revolver!

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    Ooh baby!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwlongshot View Post
    Ooh baby!!

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    And the boolits that drop out of that mold are just as pretty as the mold.

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    On all my 327 I have that is BH ,SP101 and the handi rifle I had made, all take .313 with out any problems. My 32ACP take .312 that is a Keltec P32
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    Beauties!

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    cwlongshot, NICE! What's behind those pretty purple boolits?

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    In the basket or in hand?

    I shot some of these 135g bullets today loaded on top of 6.5g Blue Dot. Proved a mild loading clocked 1090 avg and fell into a buckle at 20’ and 1” @ 25 yards!!

    These two where shot off hand @ 25 yards.

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    Super happy with this gun!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwlongshot View Post
    In the basket or in hand?
    I was think more along the lines of what powder and how much of it, but you answered that above. Nice shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark McWillis View Post
    I was think more along the lines of what powder and how much of it, but you answered that above. Nice shooting.
    If meaning what mold; It’s a Accurate 31-135s Cut specifically for the shorter length of the RUGER S7. Since I PC, I did have to seat to the very top of the CG to get them to freely completely drop in. If I centered the groove, I had to mash them in the last .002.

    But they shoot (even tho I rushed them seasoning) into a group I could cover with my thumb @ 20’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark McWillis View Post
    I was think more along the lines of what powder and how much of it, but you answered that above. Nice shooting.
    If meaning what mold; It’s a Accurate 31-135s Cut specifically for the shorter length of the RUGER S7. Since I PC, I did have to seat to the very top of the CG to get them to freely completely drop in. If I centered the groove, I had to mash them in the last .002.

    But they shoot (even tho I rushed them seasoning) into a group I could cover with my thumb @ 20’ and sub 1” @ 25 yards.

    Shot these two groups off hand @ 25 yards.
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    here is some factory loaded ammo that is coming soon heavy 327 fed mag 127 grain. https://www.federalpremium.com/rifle...1-LG327F1.html

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    here is a link to all the new henry,federal lever gun cartridges https://www.federalpremium.com/rifle...1-LG327F1.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotth View Post
    here is some factory loaded ammo that is coming soon heavy 327 fed mag 127 grain. https://www.federalpremium.com/rifle...1-LG327F1.html
    And there it is folks! The 327 federal will never be as popular as 44 magnum, and certainly never close to 357 magnum, but this kind of development will make people stand up and realize what is there. The new "hammerdown" ammo is that it is clearly meant for rifles, and the bullets presumably will not perform as well at handgun speeds. I'll be sure and test this when I get some. The only odd thing is that the velocities are supposed to be from a rifle. The 327 federal (1650 fps), 44 mag (1715 fps) and 45 colt (1400 fps) are clearly rifle velocities. The 357 magnum is 170 grain listed at 1240 fps, which is not even fast in a handgun. 180 grain at 1300 fps is very doable from a handgun. I'm not sure what that is all about.

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    And bless Ruger and Federal for keeping this wonderful cartridge alive.

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    I've said it before, I sold my Ruger Blackhawk Buckeye Special in 32 Combo, and have regretted it ever since, but now that I have my Ruger 8 Shooter in 327 and my custom "Project 616" in 327 FM I plan to hold onto both of them until I can't hold onto anything any more. Others may want their 44 and 357 Mags (I have or have had both) but give me my 327s and I'll be a happy camper.

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    I cast up another batch of 135’s!

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    These are WW water dropped. Then Powder coated my own mix and water dropped again out of oven.
    I dont feel I need that hardness but its a test to prove that.


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