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    Win 1892 44-40 re-barrel

    I'm having a 92 24 1/4" octagon rifle re-barrelled .The new pipe is 1-28" twist ,.428.6" groove and button rifled.Will I be able to shoot cast of of this ? How hard should the lead be and what size bullets would be recommended. Would like to drill a deer with it this fall or perhaps a spring bear here in Alberta Canada.The original barrel was sewer pipe quality with no rifling left so I didn't really wreck a collector piece.Will retain it to sell with the gun when I'm done with it.Not a rookie with guns but little experience with casting so bear with me on that one.

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    I would load as large a cast bullet as will chamber easily. Most important is to measure the NECK diameter of the chamber so see how much release clearance you have. With Starline brass of 0.007" wall thickness you want a .445" chamber neck diameter to provide safe release clearance for a .429-.430" bullet, which you can buy readily off the shelf, and works well in most .44-40 rifles and revolvers.
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    I'm using Win brass .007 so same same then? Hardness of 1/20 1/40 or #2 ?

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    1:40 tin-lead is suitable for full charge loads in the .44-40 and will give good game performance.

    If you do not yet have a mold, I can recommend the Accurate 43-230G, which has given me wonderful results in the Marlin 1894S and a Rossi '92 clone, using 22-24 grains of IMR4198. This load is NOT suitable for the older Winchester 1872 and clones, but is a healthy, "full charge" rifle load for the 1892 Winchester and 1894 Marlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer2 View Post
    I'm using Win brass .007 so same same then? Hardness of 1/20 1/40 or #2 ?
    Yes. 1:40 is recommended. See my other post.
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    Thanx boys,the smith must have been bored as I dropped the gun and barrel off at about 2pm and he just phoned me at 6pm to tell me it's ready to be picked up!Any suggestions for barrel break in or that it's button rifled?

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    I would just clean it in the normal manner and then go shoot!
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    What kind of velocity are you getting with 230gr cast and IMR 4198 in what barrel length?Is it a GC bullet ? OAL 1.6" or less for reliable functioning in a 1892?I have lots of that powder on hand but was previously using IMR 4227 in a commemorative 94 with good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer2 View Post
    What kind of velocity are you getting with 230gr cast and IMR 4198 in what barrel length?Is it a GC bullet ? OAL 1.6" or less for reliable functioning in a 1892?I have lots of that powder on hand but was previously using IMR 4227 in a commemorative 94 with good results.

    Plain based bullet. Crimp in front crimp groove to feed in 1892. Get 1600 fps from 20" barrel, 3" groups at 100 yds. with open iron sights, shots through both shoulders of deer broadside with thumb sized exit. Good enough! Also works in Ruger Vaquero.
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    And likely you can eat right up to the bullet hole..........sounds good!

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    This looks fun. I look forward to hearing results. JW

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check