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    Siamese Mauser Stock

    Can anyone point me to someone who makes a wood OR synthetic stock that will work on the Siamese Mauser? Slanted magazine presents a problem. Or, suggest someone with a pantograph machine that will duplicate the original military stock in a new blank. Not looking for a show piece but a hunting rifle rebarreled to .33 Winchester. Work already done on barrel.

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    Try Walnut Grove Gunstocks or Wenigs. Both should have patterns for Siamese Mausers. They will be partial inlets, not drop in.

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    Richards Microfit Stocks can make them. I got one of mine from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by map55b View Post
    Richards Microfit Stocks can make them. I got one of mine from them.

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    Excellent, thanks

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    I think that these guys still make the Saimese Mauser spotter stocks too. They still list it as a option.
    http://www.rifle-stocks.com/actions_available.htm

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    Cool caliber choice! You can get close to .338 Win power in that very strong action.
    Map55b- excellent as usual! What caliber?

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    Hello TX by God: Its in 45-70. I have another barreled action in 45-70 I need to stock, which leave one action left in the pile. I'm thinking 50 Alaskan because it sounds neat. I also have one each in 8x50 and 8x52 that are as issued and will stay that way.

    Ticket Machine: What caliber is the one you plan to stock?

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    It is a .33 Winchesterbarrel still in the white but I wanted to fit a stock first. In addition, I have a spare action only and a full military rifle that I shoot (original caliber). I also have a custom .45-70 finished and it is too pretty to hunt with it so it is a safe queen right now. I will try to post some pics if I can figure it out.

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    Love to see them Ticket Machine. Which "original" caliber is your full military one in? 8x50 or 8x52?

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    Quote Originally Posted by map55b View Post
    Love to see them Ticket Machine. Which "original" caliber is your full military one in? 8x50 or 8x52?
    It is type 66, 8x52

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    .45-70 Siamese

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    Here is the Type 66 Click image for larger version. 

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    Forgot the ammo: Made from .45-70 casesClick image for larger version. 

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    Very nice rifles! Did you form the cases yourself? What was the processes?

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    I was lucky enough to find a set of form dies in an auction that also included a set of RCBS Full Length dies. I didn't realize it at the time but I could have used .33 Winchester dies for the initial forming. The picture here is of a .33 Winchester case on the left beside a loaded 8x52R. They are remarkably similar. Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	211068 I annealed the .45-70 cases after trimming them to 2.02" then used the form die and the trim die. I then used the full length size die and trimmed back again to 2.02. Last I turned the rim to .556. I have only done 25 or so since it takes a little bit of work. I was concerned that they may need neck reaming but they turned out fine. Rifle shoots great using a 198gr. FMJ made by PPU ordered from Grafs with 52.0 grains of IMR 4320.

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    That stock is breathtaking. My old 30-40 Siamese sporter that I did in high school is still killing deer down in Eagle Pass for a friend's family last I heard. Great actions.

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    I love the .30-40 cartridge. I have a Ruger No.1 in .30-40 and a 98 Krag sporter I hunt with. The extra action I have may end up as a .30-40 as well.

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    I used a Mcgowen barrel for mine and it would put 3 180gr Speer RN into less than an inch. I loaded it past maximum .308 Win levels in the Siamese. I envy your Krags, never had a #3 but did have a 98 Krag with a cut down forend, Lyman peep, and uncut 30" barrel. Of course I used sensible loads in it. I sure miss both of those 30-40s.

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    When I got my No.1 Ruger I compared the powder capacity at the correct bullet seating depth of the .308 Winchester and the .30-40 Krag, and the Krag case had 11% more capacity. Based on that I used .308 starting loads instead of .30-40 loads, and went from there. It was easy to get 2800fps with a 150gr. bullet but I ended up using a load at 2750fps since I was shooting at short ranges. I use 180gr. Power Points in my 1898 Krag sporter at 2450fps.

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