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    Quote Originally Posted by Electric88 View Post
    The Truth About Guns has reported a five inch group being 3/4" at about 59 yards.

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...er-pc-carbine/
    I read through the report and didn't see any 5 inch groups. I saw one 5 shot group that measured under an inch but nothing bigger than around 2 inches shown in the report.

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    Ooops, I meant to say 5 shot group under an inch. Good catch

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    it wasn't just them. More places then not jacket up there prices. Even I did. I sold an ar10 I bought new for 900 bucks to a guy who offered me 1300 bucks for. 600 dollar ARs were selling for a grand around here and that's if you could even find one. today you can put one together for 400 bucks or less.
    Quote Originally Posted by Electric88 View Post
    Maybe you're right, they aren't thieves. I guess any time I see one place charging a significant amount more than others, I immediately lose any interest in dealing with them. But, that is capitalism I suppose, and vastly better than the alternative.

    I will probably be jaded for quite some time specifically by Cheaper than Dirt, and the way they jacked up prices on magazines and green tip ammunition when shootings happened or bans loomed. But, that was a different scenario anyways.
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    street price is around 500 bucks but retail is probably close to the 700 6bg posted.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmort View Post
    As usual, a post that is factually inaccurate and provides no useful information. It is not a $700 gun, and it runs just fine. If I did not have my two Berettas, I would already have a couple. Still might.
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    they are the same trigger as a 1022 so aftermarket triggers are already available but add a 100 or more trigger to a 550 dollar rifle and its starting to get ridiculous again. That said even a out of the box 1022 has a fair trigger when compared to some of the ar15s ive owned so it would probably be good enough for me right out of the box for what id use it for. It aint a target rifle and doesn't pretend to be.
    Quote Originally Posted by dverna View Post
    Maybe I missed it in all the BS....has anyone measured the trigger pull and worked one. I had a Camp 9 and got rid of it because the trigger was horrible.

    BTW anyone who pays close to MSRP is a fool when it is easy to beat that price by spending 5 minutes on the internet.

    If the triggers are decent (and supposedly they are like the 10/22 - so I hope they can be similarly tuned) I am buying one. Lloyd summed up why. And if they can be converted from 9mm to .40 S&W, I will be a very happy camper.
    Last edited by Lloyd Smale; 02-03-2018 at 11:50 AM.
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    I think the $700+ price tag was at a California gun shop? That wouldn't surprise me.

    Edit.... Yes. $749.00 in Elk Grove CA

    Just that fact this firearm has already generated 11 pages of discussion shows it to be interesting.

    Personally, I believe the 9mm blow back design is as simple an action you can make......other then the .22 blowback. They are close to the same. Just the 9 is center fired and a little beefier. I would have to see it below $400 ($400 tops) before I would be interested. I agree that Ruger only has about $125 to $150 cost in every one they make.
    Last edited by buckshotshoey; 02-04-2018 at 05:57 AM.

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    Grab-a-gun lists them for less than $500 when they are in stock.

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    I see there are MANY YouTube videos out for the PC Carbine. I have to say it really doesn't look that bad. I would have to think that some of the negative commenters wouldn't buy anything Ruger to begin with. Haven't watched all the vids yet, but nothing really derogatory has been pointed out so far. It has sparked my interest.

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    If they make one in stainless I’m in
    Ill keep my guns money and freedom you keep the CHANGE!!!

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    a simple lightweight bolt action carbine with beretta 92 or 951 or similar single stack magazines like the remington 581 i converted to 9x19 and used destroyer mags on would sell like hot cakes for $300, if any reputable gun maker was smart enuf to use low cost manufacturing techniques married to traditional styling. they are marketing to 12 year olds with the "cutting edge" cheese grater "modern styling" ****, while the gun money is still in the hands of grumpy old men.

    w eare willing to buy plastic and aluminum, just not overpriced butt-ugly plastic and aluminum.

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    KyGunCo's in-stock notification system must be wonky. I've received two notifications in the past week, clicking on the second one almost instantly, and they still showed out of stock.

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    I got mine a week ago, and so far it has been great. I already performed a few modifications:

    1. The front sight is nearly invisible on a black target. I spent about $3.00 at my local Ace Hardware and now have it upgraded with some bright orange hobby enamel. This is a definite improvement. I am already looking at adapting an AR-15 style Hi-Viz or Tritium front sight post. For now, this will work.

    2. I mounted a Burris Fastfire III red dot. Mounted all the way forward scout-style, you get good visibility and peripheral vision. It is not low enough to cowitness, but the white bar is close enough to serve as a rear sight.

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    3. I tried to mount a Streamlight TLR-1HL, but the little picatinny rail lacks the necessary clearance at the rear. Rather than exchange it for a 1-cell handgun light, I opted to modify the stock. With the barrel still mounted, it's easy to clamp the barrel flutes into the milling vise and remove about .250" from the back of the rail. I also opted to run a very light pass over the top to remove the mold marks. Now any full-sized rifle light will fit just fine.

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    4. As seen in the above picture, I also wanted to use both a light and a sling simultaneously. This required that I also move the front sling swivel back 1.00". I machined a little Aluminum block to fit snugly inside the stock and tapped it all the way through for a 10-32 Uncle Mike's swivel stud. Now an M1 Carbine GI sling mounts nicely and doesn't smack the light controls when shouldered for carrying. The original hole is plugged with a brass rivet held in with a dab of RTV.

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    If you mount a sling, be sure to purchase the GT sling swivels and not the Uncle Mike's. The rear sling stud is molded into the stock, and there is too much radius for a new Uncle Mike's to close all the way. Get the GT in 1" or 1.25" and you will have no problems. It's also all-metal with no plastic knob.

    The PC Carbine seems to run just fine with G17 and G26 magazines. I'm going to try a few others as well. I ran 100 rounds of random ammo, including some skinny, long hollowpoints through it with zero issues. The takedown is very repeatable and there is zero play between barrel and receiver.

    The next task will be sewing up a nice carrying case for it. So far, it appears to fit in a 3-racket tennis case, a small musical instrument case intended for DJ mixers, and the long DeWalt sawzall case. It will not fit in a standard day pack without sticking out. Some of the longer Pelican cases should also fit, as would a soft mandolin case.

    I'm also going to experiment with some loads. I'm thinking I'll focus on two of the slower powders that Lyman #49 and Hodgson list for 9mm - Blue Dot and Longshot. I hope to pick up 200fps+ over standard pistol velocity if I load carefully. We'll see how it goes.

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    Last edited by arclight; 05-19-2018 at 06:12 PM.

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