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Thread: 7 Shot GP100s and Security 9

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    7 Shot GP100s and Security 9

    I see on the Ruger website they now have two barrel lengths of 357 GP100s with 7 shot capacity. They also have a low priced 9 mm called the Security 9. It sounds like itís a Glock 19 sized gun with blued slide and a low price.

    Iím not interested in the 9mm, but a short barreled 7 shot GP100 has my interest. Definitely donít need it as I havenít worn out any of my 6 shot 357s. I do enjoy that 7th round in my 327 GP100 though....
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    I like the feel of the 2.5 in also. Just wonder if that is too short of a barrel for .357 mag. I've always heard you need at least a 3 in barrel to take advantage of the round.

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    I wish the 7 shot 357 was based on the LCR instead, fixed sights, enclosed DAO hammer, a "LMR" (Light MEDIUM Revolver) ... I wonder if the 2.5" has a full length ejector rod? At least, it has a fluted cylinder ... adj sights on a snubbie??? Uhggg!
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    Edkn welcome aboard.
    Yes short 357s are a good thing. My 2.25” SP101 can get 150-160 boolits into the 1300 fps. That’s real magnum velocity. Of course in my 4” GP100 I can push 150-160 gr into the 1500s. Question comes though is that extra 200 fps worth carrying the extra 2”of barrel? My answer is sometimes... If I’m shooting a couple of hundred rounds for fun and games, the extra barrel with its weight and sight radius is welcome. For carrying concealed, I prefer the short barrel.
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    Turns out the Security 9 is an LCP II that has grown into a 9mm. Whether that is a good thing or not is up to you. I don't like the LCP II and think the S&W SD9 for the same price is a way better deal so I'll pass.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, .30 WCF, .45-70 Gov't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooting on a shoestring View Post
    Edkn welcome aboard.
    Yes short 357s are a good thing. My 2.25” SP101 can get 150-160 boolits into the 1300 fps. That’s real magnum velocity. Of course in my 4” GP100 I can push 150-160 gr into the 1500s. Question comes though is that extra 200 fps worth carrying the extra 2”of barrel? My answer is sometimes... If I’m shooting a couple of hundred rounds for fun and games, the extra barrel with its weight and sight radius is welcome. For carrying concealed, I prefer the short barrel.
    Thanks for the info. I was deciding between the GP and SP and wasn't even considering the 2.25 SP. Doesn't seem to be any reason to go with the longer barrels as I pocket carry. I was thinking of the 3 in but it would have been a tight fit in the pocket that's why I was thinking the GP route and making it a range and house gun. This way, the 2.25 can go into my carry rotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FergusonTO35 View Post
    Turns out the Security 9 is an LCP II that has grown into a 9mm. Whether that is a good thing or not is up to you. I don't like the LCP II and think the S&W SD9 for the same price is a way better deal so I'll pass.
    SD9 is a great gun. I have over 2500 flawless rounds through mine.

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    Don't forget the new barrel lengths for the 8 shot .357 Redhawk. And today they announced a 9mm pistol caliber carbine.

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    I got to handle a 7 shot GP100 with the 4.2” barrel. Looked really good. Rifling looked good, forcing cone good, barrel/cylinder gap fine, had the fiber optic sight, looked good, crane to frame fit looked better than most recent GPS I’ve seen. Sure wished I needed one. Price was $699 near Austin, TX. I’ve already got a couple of good 4” 357s, so I walked away. Had it been the short barrel, I’d probably be poorer now.
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    The S&W SD series pistols are a screaming bargain. Made in the USA 9mm or .40 pistol in stainless with two mags and it's an S&W for $300.00 or less.

    Ruger has also recently made some uncatalogued .327 GP's with adjustable sights and half lug barrels. They bring one of those out in .38/.357 and I'm on it.
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    Hey Ferguson, that 7 shot 357 has a half lug, but it also has half a barrel too (2.5”).
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    Quote Originally Posted by FergusonTO35 View Post
    Turns out the Security 9 is an LCP II that has grown into a 9mm. Whether that is a good thing or not is up to you. I don't like the LCP II and think the S&W SD9 for the same price is a way better deal so I'll pass.
    It's hard to beat the SD9VE! I don't know why it's not more popular.

    But I do want to see the new Security 9. I like the LCPII, with Hogue Beaver Tail Grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty Red View Post
    It's hard to beat the SD9VE! I don't know why it's not more popular.

    But I do want to see the new Security 9. I like the LCPII, with Hogue Beaver Tail Grip.

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    I agree, it is basically a Glock without the Glock price, plus a more realistic trigger for most people. I own two Glocks, used to own three, only guns I have considered getting rid of lately. If the Security 9 has a better grip angle, and proves to be accurate, it is another thorn under Gaston's rear end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkingwolf View Post
    I agree, it is basically a Glock without the Glock price, plus a more realistic trigger for most people. I own two Glocks, used to own three, only guns I have considered getting rid of lately. If the Security 9 has a better grip angle, and proves to be accurate, it is another thorn under Gaston's rear end.
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    I need to stop paying attention.....

    Ruger having a new version of their pistol caliber carbine out......my wallet is screaming for relief as is my desire!

    I have been wanting a 9mm AR, but that looks to be more of an itch scratcher to me than another AR style carbine.
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    Well that sure got my hopes up. Was thinking they were remaking the Security Six in 9mm! Todd/3leg

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    My local fun store has the 9mm carbines on order, his price is $479.00. I'm putting one in layaway jail as soon as they arrive, which will probably be a few weeks. I looked at the Security 9 today. For under $300.00 it's probably a decent gun but I still think the SD9/SD40 for $10.00 more is a much better deal. Heck, for $90.00 more you can get a Ruger American or SR series.
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    Ok I saw one of the 2.5” 7 shoot GP100s at Collector’s Firearms in Houston (awesome store, check out their online inventory, the store is even better).

    I didn’t handle it though. I didn’t like the overall look. The grip seemed to big for the barrel. The proportions just didn’t sing to me. The 4.2” does appeal to my eye which could explain why I have 3 other 4” GP100s (one is a 7 shot 327 Fed).

    Maybe if I concentrate my 357 shooting to just one of my GP100s I could wear it out and justify getting a new 7 shooter version. Wonder how many rounds it takes to get to the end of a GP100?
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    imo, short barrels are for ccw. whilst i can feel comfy with a 5 shot ccw revolver (as i do with an s&w 60 2.13") 6 in the cylinder is too much for me, let alone 7. if it comes down to ccw firepower, that's a discussion of another sorts. personally subjective stuff, of course.

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