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Thread: Do I need to be worried about not using a spire point for a .223 AR-15?

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    Do I need to be worried about not using a spire point for a .223 AR-15?

    I'm building my first AR-15 right now, it's basically a vanilla M4 with a 1:7 or 1:8 16" barrel. In addition to shooting j-word reloads for longer ranges, which I can do for about $0.20/round, I'd like to be able to make plinking rounds from lead for shooting at 100 yards and closer, because I can do those for like $0.13/round.

    I'm aware that I want to aim for an FPS of around 1800 or so since I'm using water-dropped COWW alloy. Ideally a 6-cavity mold would be cool since I'd like to be able to quickly pump out a lot of plinking boolits. But the only .224 6-cavity mold I'm finding is a round nose flat point by Lee. I've heard rumors that one tends to have feeding errors.

    Would I be better served with a different mold to avoid feeding errors? I also think maybe it makes sense to go for something a little heavier than 55 grains since my twist is going to be pretty fast.

    Mold recommendations and all other wisdom welcome. Thanks in advance!

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    I never had issues with j word spire points feeding in my AR. I doubt it would be a problem with cast but I've yet to run any in mine.

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    The OP was asking if they needed to worry about bullets OTHER THAN Spire points having feeding problems, not if spire points would have failures to feed, though.

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    Don't shoot 223 cast, but do shoot cast .358" and .430" Wide flat nosed bullets in straight walled cartridges out of ar15's which is harder to get to feed well as they're almost the same size as the chamber opening. Too soft and they can catch on the feed ramp/lugs, but as long as they make it past the lugs and at least hit the bevel on the chamber a straight walled wide flat nose will feed. Being a bottleneck you have a greater advantage since the chamber mouth is much bigger than a straight walled.

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    I'm running the Arsenal 225-61 Elvis mold which is a flat point and have had no issues with it.

    http://arsenalmolds.com/index.php?ro...product_id=109


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    the new LEE is a copy of the rcbs 055s it will feed in an ar rifle no problem.
    it will also shoot in a 1-8 no problem.
    use a good alloy and sort by weight and they will shoot past 2700 fps no problem.

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    I can feed the HTC226-100 through my ARs just fine and that boolit has a flat point of .129". I only shoot .223 in ARs and I only use bullets 62gr or heavier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runfiverun View Post
    the new LEE is a copy of the rcbs 055s it will feed in an ar rifle no problem.
    it will also shoot in a 1-8 no problem.
    use a good alloy and sort by weight and they will shoot past 2700 fps no problem.
    So you have a link to that mold>?

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    I have that boolit, never one ftf in my AR.

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    Fantastic feedback, thank you all. Sounds like I was getting worried about nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mto7464 View Post
    So you have a link to that mold>?
    Found it at the top of the page

    https://www.titanreloading.com/lee-p...-mold-c22555rf

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