Primer pocket swager

[mwhite49]

Any recommendations for the easy to use primer pocket swagger to remove crimped primers?
I know Dillon makes a bench mount unit, rcbs makes a bench mount and dies.
I have 500 308 to process.
Thanks
Mike

[Pipefitter]

Both the Dillon and the RCBS bench mounted tools are going to run about $100, The RCBS press mounted tool can be found used for about $20. Over the years I have used the RCBS die set to swage many thousands of military primer pockets. Just ensure that your press is securely bolted to a heavy bench as the force required to bump the brass off of the swaging tool is pretty stout.

If you were planning on doing multiple thousands of military brass I would look into one of the bench mount tools just for the fact that they are faster than the die set. If all you intend to do is a few hundred then the RCBS die set would be a better purchase.

[MUSTANG]

Depends on how many you need to do and your available space. I use the Dillon Swage 600, but also one that fits my RCBS RockChucker. If you do thousands each year I would go with the Dillon Swage 600; if you are doing a few to couple hundred at a time, then the RCBS Primer Pocket Swaged Combo 2 would be my recommendation.

Attachment 209856

https://www.amazon.com/RCBS-Primer-P...r+Pocket+Swage

[mdi]

FWIW; I don't have any suggestions for primer pocket swaging but I have processed a few thousand cases with crimped primer pockets. I'm a life long machinist/mechanic and when I first encountered crimped primer pockets I immediately thought of a countersink. I had a few in my toolbox and did a few by hand. Then I chucked one in my hand drill and found it takes less than one second and the crimp's gone. Nuttin' against pocket swagers, I just use a cheaper, easier way that would be/is quite acceptable to anyone with metal working experience. Just FYI...

https://www.mcmaster.com/#countersinks/=1ar8sxu

[mwhite49]

Thanks to all. I have a couple of those counter sinks that I'll try out.

[lightman]

I have both the Dillon and the RCBS press mounted swagger. The Dillon is faster and does not strain the case rim but it requires different adjustments for different crimps. It really helps to have your brass sorted by head stamp. I find that I use the RCBS tool more because of this. All crimps are not equal and no tool works perfect 100% of the time.

[Budzilla 19]

Got the RCBS and CH sets, I like RCBS better. The CH system does leave a “crimp “ type mark on the rim if you get the depth setting wrong. Did 600 LC 13 7.62 cases a while back using the RCBS system,and the suggestion to bolt that press down solid is a valid one! Good luck whatever way you go.

[Safeshot]

I like the RCBS primer pocket swagger. I lubricate the primer pocket with Lee Case Sizing Lube to make it easier to "bump" the case off of the swagger "plug".

[Half Dog]

This might not be a option but I tried the Hornady LNL swager and I really enjoy it.

[VHoward]

Be careful with a countersink. I got some brass that someone had gone overboard on. Had to scrap it.

[pwc]

MDI, which countersink did u use? What dia? I know the swage is only at the outside top, but what taper to keep off the bottom of the pocket.

[Minerat]

I use the one on my RCBS Trim mate. Turn on unit, on hold the primer pocket to the inside case mouth deburing tool count to 4 and done.

[EDG]

I have used the RCBS press mounted tool a lot. Once I did most of a 5 gallon bucket full of 5.56 brass in one day. Bumping the cases off the spud gave me a nasty case of tennis elbow that took most of a year to heal. So alternate arms and don't do more than 50 a day. And rest your elbow 2 to 4 days between lots.

[Bayou52]

I just swaged about 300 223s this afternoon using the RCBS swaging die for use in a press. Once you get into the rhythm, they go pretty fast...

[45workhorse]

CH4D works for me, and my 20 year old Son has not destroyed it, or ruined more than 10 pieces of brass setting it up.

[nicholst55]

I used the RCBS press-mounted setup for a couple of decades, and then bought a Dillon Super Swage. I promptly sold my RCBS tool. Yup, the Dillon needs adjustment when switching between different lots of brass. So did the RCBS. I'd much rather spend a few minutes adjusting the Dillon tool than be beating brass off the swaging stud on the RCBS tool.

[lightman]

MDI, which countersink did u use? What dia? I know the swage is only at the outside top, but what taper to keep off the bottom of the pocket.

I used a 45º counter sink when I did it that way. And yeah, be cautious not to cut too much.

[blikseme300]

This might not be a option but I tried the Hornady LNL swager and I really enjoy it.

This is the route I went with for higher volumes. I have the 223 and 308 sets for the LnL AP and I really like it. Stress on the hands is very low and this is important to me.

The RCBS set works well for small batches but the cheapest way is a counter sink.

[oldsman]

I also started out using the RCBS press mount, but now I use the DILLON

[Artful]

I just swaged about 300 223s this afternoon using the RCBS swaging die for use in a press. Once you get into the rhythm, they go pretty fast...

This fast?