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    Missed that memo, what velocities have you experienced? What boolit were you using?
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    richhodg66,

    According to NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC magazine, there are just two sorts of places: Those WITH a hog problem & those that soon WILL have a problem.

    yours, tex

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnative46 View Post
    richhodg66,

    According to NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC magazine, there are just two sorts of places: Those WITH a hog problem & those that soon WILL have a problem.

    yours, tex
    Years back, I killed a nice little sow near a peanut field (in a cold, drizzling rain) in the vicinity of Turkey, TX. (Home of Bob Wills). Next time I hunted that area I was informed that feral hogs had made peanut farming in that region unprofitable. Yes, hogs are a problem. Smoke 'em when you see 'em.
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    TAC14,

    Your map is incorrect about WY, inasmuch as my aunt/uncle's property outside of Sheridan HAS a feral hog population. = The month before his passing in Summer 2015, my uncle shot two (of a good-sized group) in their back yard just before dusk.
    (He BBQed both for a party.)

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    TXGunNut,

    We have a lady out of OK who traps them on our farm in NETX & exports the hogs to OK. = Periodically, "Jeanie" sends us a check for "our cut" of what she trapped.
    (IF I was on the farm more, I'd shoot more for BBQ pigs. = My favorite BBQ is whole pigs that dress about 60-80 pounds & cooked with green hickory.)

    yours, tex

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXGunNut View Post
    Missed that memo, what velocities have you experienced? What boolit were you using?
    250 grain lfn and 2350 fps. Others have had good success with it at a little lower velocity and less boolit weight too. Of course, it's good for full velocity, as well. 2350 was where I got the best accuracy with my lfn that I was using.

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    It's been said... soften your alloy and slow it down ..you'll get more penetration and expansion without fragmentation.

    A great article is in the THIRD Edition of Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook, Pages 96-98, with a summary data demonstrating relationships between alloy/velocity/fragmentation (weight retention)/ and penetration. ( see attached file.)
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    Bottom line is this:
    Hard Alloy + high velocity = Fragmentation and less penetration.
    Semi Soft alloy (#2) + moderate velocity (1800-2000 FPS) = Penetration and expansion

    I have found that soft alloy (8-9 BHN) heat treats easily to 20 BHN for the benefits of a hard rifle bullet, but avoids fragmentation associated with high antimony alloys at high velocity.
    My issue is that I've never been able to collect a specimen bullet from a hog test medium... full pass through every time at 30/30 velocities, 30 cal 7mm, and 45/70.
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    It's been said... soften your alloy and slow it down ..you'll get more penetration and expansion without fragmentation.-pls1911

    Words of wisdom, neighbor! Thanks! I thought I was chasing what the rifle wanted, instead it seems I was just trying to make the powder happy. A 230gr, 35 caliber boolit doesn't need to go fast to be effective on TX game.
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    Play with your alloy a bit as described above, size a bit larger, and slow it down to around 1900 fps.
    Cast soft, heat treat hard, shoot with moderate velocity. Your bullet will hold together.
    I did this with 30-30 years ago and have never recovered a slug ... total pass through both shoulders on hogs and deer
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    pls1911,

    Fwiw, my GCCB load for my 9.3x62mm is 280 grains at about 1900FPS. = I, offhand, can think of NO creature in the Western Hemisphere that that rifle/boolit is inadequate to kill.
    (Imo, any number of rifle calibers over .350" at about that speed, given a good shot, are equally capable.)

    Note: I have a friend in Gravenhurst, ONT. who has taken a lot of BIG game with his SMLE "sporter" & .35 caliber wildcat (on a .303 British case).

    yours, tex

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