That is the answer I am looking for. Thanks. I have 2 S&W N frame 357's and the 38 Special length cylinders on them does restrict O.A.L. Still remember the time when I was a very young man and bought my Model 28. Went to a shop that sold cast boolits. Bought a thousand Keith's and loaded a few. Thats when I learned about different cylinder lengths. Those 358429's worked fine in my model 19's. I just could not understand why S&W did that...