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Thread: Customizing cap and ball revolvers

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Name:	Cleaning rust off Colt 1849 made in 1857 3-8-2017 (1).jpg 
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    I have a Colt made in 1859 that has very little of the grips left. It was all rust when I bought it. I have new grips made of Cherry that will take a lot of fitting. I have a whole bag of replacement parts to get it running again.

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    I ordered and received some replacement parts.
    Yesterday I took the 1849 colt pocket revolver apart. It was made in 1859, covered in rust, and not working.


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Name:	grind 1849 colt replacement trigger spring round 20180110_114720.jpg 
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    The trigger spring / bolt spring was broken.
    The new trigger spring was too long and square.
    I ground it down.

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    The hand was missing when I took the revolver apart.
    The pin on the new hand is 0.131"
    The hole in the old trigger is 0.128"

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    I drilled out the hammer with a 0.136" drill.
    The hole is now 0.134".
    0.134" -0.128" = 0.006" clearance -> 5 degrees of wobble.
    I guess I could have ground down a drill in diameter, but I was moving at mach 3.
    The hand is stuck in a narrow channel, and will not wobble.

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    The trigger spring screw was too short to get started, so I made a spacer from Aluminum and clamped the spring down to get the screw started.







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    The revolver will no longer do full cock.
    Through experiments I can see the cause is the the new hand is too long in the vertical direction.
    I can fool the revolver into cocking by getting between chambers so the top of the hand is not hitting the cylinder star.
    I can then rotate the cylinder and fire normally. Not desirable with heavy bolt drag on the cylinder.

    The replacement wedge screw is too short.

    I need to:
    Find another wedge screw
    cut down the hand
    fit the new cherry stock
    Probably replace rusty nipples.

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    I was grinding on the new hand until I had the cylinder timed.

    This may be the first time this revolver worked in 150 years.

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    Very nice work.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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